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The United Way's Boy Scout Fetish
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | May 19, 2003 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 05/19/2003 6:01:32 AM PDT by SJackson

It’s happening again, another badly misguided local United Way chapter banning any UWA funds from going to the Boy Scouts groups because they won’t allow homosexuals to be scout masters – a constitutional right assured the Boy Scouts of America by no less than the United States Supreme Court.

Incredibly, at a time when critics are attacking Roman Catholic dioceses in the U.S. for allowing gay priests to have access to teenage boys, thus exposing them to the strong possibility of molestation, others are demanding that gay scout leaders be allowed the same kind of risky access to teenage boy scouts.

Since the Supreme Court ruled in June 2000 that the national Boy Scouts of America (BSA) organization did not have to accept homosexuals because it is a private organization, about 50 local United Way chapters, including Seattle and San Francisco, have gutlessly surrendered to pressure from gay groups and stopped contributing to them, according to CBS News.

Now comes the Miami-Dade United Way (UW) chapter which says it will no longer give nearly a half-million dollars a year to the local chapter of the BSA after June, because the scouts won’t provide some asinine be-nice-to-gays-they’re-normal-just-like-us "sensitivity" training program for its leaders.

According to an Associated Press report, the local UW's board of directors voted unanimously to discontinue the annual $480,000 grant - about 20 percent of the Scouts’ budget. Most of that money goes to programs in the area's poorer communities, the AP reported.

"It's a serious blow to the council's ability to deliver Scouting programs," scout council spokesman Jeff Herrmann told the AP.

The local UW claims it made its decision because the Boy Scouts reneged on an alleged 2001 pledge to put into effect training programs to help Scout leaders to be "sensitive" in dealing with kids who have trouble coping with sexuality, a pledge to which Herrmann flatly denies the scouts ever agreed.

"Sex education and sexual orientation are not part of our program and we're unwilling to make them part of our program," he told AP.

The Miami-Dade UW is the latest to cut off the Boy Scouts in Florida. The UWs of Broward and Palm Beach County stopped allocating funds to Boy Scout programs about two years ago.

Their actions provoked a firestorm of protests and cost both United Way chapters dearly. When the United Way of Broward stopped giving funds to the Boy Scouts in 2001, one couple donated $200,000 to the South Florida Council, which oversees scouting programs in Miami-Dade, Broward and Monroe counties. The Palm Beach County UW says it has lost about $500,000 in donations after it stopped giving the Gulf Stream Council of Boy Scouts money from the United Way general fund.

Good! Americans shouldn’t put up with these threats to the welfare of young scouts. We can start by making direct contributions to the Boy Scouts along with other groups when our local UWAs cravenly surrender to homosexual pressures and cut funding for the scouts, and we should boycott the United Way chapter and urge others to do the same.

Companies should inform United Way they will not give if UW insists on getting involved in such social engineering practices. If your employer has a UW drive, don’t be afraid to ask if they support the Boy Scouts. Ask before you give a cent.

We must understand that gay groups are attempting to undermine the decision of the United States Supreme Court. Certain UW chapters are being foolish enough to listen to them. They cannot be allowed to succeed.

America’s war against terrorism is not the only war we are fighting. We are also engaged at home in a struggle to restore decency and morality in the public square. The battle to protect our children from those who seek an opportunity to corrupt them is a battle we cannot afford to lose.

Some observers have predicted that if homosexual activists continue their relentless attacks on the nation’s moral underpinnings they will inevitably create a backlash that will send them reeling back into the closet.

Fine. Let the backlash begin.

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Mike Reagan, the eldest son of President Ronald Reagan, is heard on more than 200 talk radio stations nationally as part of the Premiere Radio Network.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bsa; homosexualagenda; miamidade; michaelreagan; unitedway
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To: SJackson
United Way is so totally stupid! Every time their name is mentioned it is flamed big time!

Keep flapping that dumb butt yap, United Way, you are WAY disgusting.

41 posted on 05/19/2003 8:28:20 AM PDT by Taiwan Bocks
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To: RAT Patrol
"The SCOTUS says it is against the constitution to force people to have gay mentors for their children."

I don't recall reading that in the Constitution, but I reserve that as one of those unenumerated rights we all have.

"We just think their policy is appalling and we're saying so. Surely you think we have that right."

So do I. I say it by not sending any money to United Way.

"I will never be forced to teach my child that homosexuality is normal."

I'm with you on that. I have two sons, I don't believe that anyone other than myself and my wife have a right to teach them morals.

I don't understand "their" obsession anymore than I understand the obsession of those who would use the power of government to regulate the private sex lives of citizens.

We try to use government to support our dislike for their lifestyle, they use our dislike for their lifestyle, the kind of verbiage used in FR when homosexuality is discussed, and the fact that we as a majority are busy enacting laws to control their behavior to get the very same government that we are using to control them, to control us.

This should be fought at home, by teaching our kids right from wrong.

I don't want to give the government more power to intrude into the lives of citizens.

42 posted on 05/19/2003 8:34:12 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: TonyRo76
Well, CJ and Kevin threw some pretty unsolicited insults at me, I thought I'd respond in kind.

Go back on the thread until you find the first appearance of my name, it was CJ lying about me.

He wanted a flame war, I accomodated his and Kevin's request.
43 posted on 05/19/2003 8:36:22 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
We try to use government to support our dislike for their lifestyle, they use our dislike for their lifestyle, the kind of verbiage used in FR when homosexuality is discussed, and the fact that we as a majority are busy enacting laws to control their behavior to get the very same government that we are using to control them, to control us.

Very nicely put, Luis. We reap what we sow.

44 posted on 05/19/2003 8:36:43 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds
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To: SJackson
Companies should inform United Way they will not give if UW insists on getting involved in such social engineering practices.

Companies should inform the United Way that companies don't do fund raisers and the United Way should use direct mail like everyone else.

Individuals should inform the United Way that they are more than able to give their money to the organizations they support without a middleman who may give money to organizations they don't support.

Why do we even have a United Way (except to line the pockets of the UW executives)?

Shalom.

45 posted on 05/19/2003 8:37:37 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Cultural Jihad; Luis Gonzalez
But Luis Gonzalez claims that by allowing them their perversions, it all stays behind hallowed closed doors,

Er, that would be hallowed tent flaps in this case.

Shalom.

46 posted on 05/19/2003 8:39:20 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks for explaining your position to me. I understand it better now.

I don't recall reading that in the Constitution, but I reserve that as one of those unenumerated rights we all have. I am referring to the Dale vs. Boy Scouts ruling where they affirmed the free association rights of the Boy Scouts (barely).

48 posted on 05/19/2003 8:43:04 AM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Taiwan Bocks
Congratulations!

Your post will one day be used in Court to prove the bias against gays in America.

You are helping that which you want to fight.
49 posted on 05/19/2003 8:43:23 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Registered
I've been wondering, is that really a fact or homo-spin? lol.

If we were actually talking about obsessing with homosexuality - for example claiming that the only way you can have sex is if it's homosexual sex - then it truely is a sign of deep seated emotional or mental problems.

Unfortunately, the supporters of the gay agenda call "fighting back" "obsessing with homosexuality" because they hate it when logical arguments make them look stupid.

Shalom.

50 posted on 05/19/2003 8:46:20 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Peckers in the children" is a separate issue that will not hold water.

In case you haven't noticed, this is a "Boy" Scouts of America thread. This thread is all about peckers in the children. If you want to talk about private, consensual, homosexual sex you'll have to shut up - because that is private.

Shalom.

51 posted on 05/19/2003 8:53:07 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Van Jenerette
...for class.
52 posted on 05/19/2003 8:57:12 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...If We Can Keep It!)
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To: Registered; Kevin Curry; Cultural Jihad
I've been wondering, is that really a fact or homo-spin?

I've always wondered if those who infer unspoken "issues" in others aren't simply projecting their own.

Take the anti-2A folks, who insist gun owners must have repressed phallic obsessions. Seems to me it's only the grabbers who see a phallus in every gun.




53 posted on 05/19/2003 9:01:38 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Luis Gonzalez; Kevin Curry
Hey Kevin, obsessing with homosexuality is a sign of some deep-seeded issues. So tell me...I promise not to whisper a word to anyone. Did it happen in College, or in the services?

Do you attack and obfuscate on the reasoning for those who speak out against abortion, drug use, incest, pedophilia, atheism and the rest of the negative society altering behaviors?

Well do ya punk?

Of course you don’t. Why??? Because you’re a hypocrite protecting your pet perversion.

54 posted on 05/19/2003 9:01:43 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What right of yours, or anyone else's for that matter, do two people, ANY two people, having consensual sex in private, and behind close doors violate?

Incest, bestiality, pedophilia, necrophilia…

55 posted on 05/19/2003 9:04:28 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Cultural Jihad
For some reason, the United Way is not pressuring the Boy Scouts to attend "sensitivity training" for bank robbers, since bank-robbery is still illegal, and there are no moral-liberal groups proselytizing and preaching for the societal acceptance of that type of cruelty.

Sodomy is illegal in Florida; are you suggesting that keeping sodomy illegal will keep money flowing from the United Way to the Boy Scouts?

56 posted on 05/19/2003 9:14:54 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: Van Jenerette
...a must read for my Critical Thinking and Pol Sci classes!
57 posted on 05/19/2003 9:19:57 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...If We Can Keep It!)
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To: FreePaul
I haven't contributed to the United Way or its predecessor for over forty years. I advise the same to everyone. I saw abuses in collection tactics

Some of the 'collection tactics' used in the workplace have all the subtlety of a mugging.

58 posted on 05/19/2003 9:48:54 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Some of the 'collection tactics' used in the workplace have all the subtlety of a mugging.

A company I worked for long ago supplied volunteers to the UW to collect from small business owners. They were shown how to harass and threaten reluctant owners to force them to contribute. One volunteer said that they had targeted an owner to put out of business because he wouldn't contribute. They put in endless calls to him for estimates at non existant addresses and other things to distract him from conducting normal business. I heard this in the context that they wouldn't have to worry about him next year because he wouldn't be in business. Sort of like the strong arm tactics used by some companies to get 100% contributors.

59 posted on 05/19/2003 10:29:48 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: FreePaul
My 'fond' memory was a practice of a former employer to set up departmental competitions, with an award going to the department with the largest amount of donations. You had to have 100% compliance to qualify. Worse yet, the names of those who hadn't done so were made public knowledge.

You would be trying to do your job, all the while having people come in all day whining about how they weren't going to get that dinner at some restaurant because you haven't given to them. They'll never get one dime from me.

60 posted on 05/19/2003 11:16:33 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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