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It's True: 'Liberals' Wanted Saddam to Beat U.S.
Newsmax.com ^ | April 18, 2003 | Newsmax.com

Posted on 04/18/2003 1:47:08 PM PDT by RetiredArmy

It's True: 'Liberals' Wanted Saddam to Beat U.S.

Gary Kamiya, executive editor of the left-leaning Internet journal Salon, confirms what some Americans have suspected: Liberals were cheering for the enemy in Iraq, the Washington Times pointed out today in an item headlined "Cheering the enemy."

"I have a confession: I have at times, as the war has unfolded, secretly wished for things to go wrong," Kamiya wrote. "Wished for the Iraqis to be more nationalistic, to resist longer. Wished for the Arab world to rise up in rage. Wished for all the things we feared would happen. I'm not alone: A number of serious, intelligent, morally sensitive people who oppose the war have told me they have had identical feelings."

But surely, you object, these "serious, intelligent, morally sensitive" liberals couldn't possibly favor a mass-murdering, torture-loving dictator? Surely they couldn't agree with "Latino studies" assistant professor Nicholas De Genova, who told a cheering crowd of appeasement activists at Columbia University that he "would like to see a million Mogadishus." Think again.

More dead American troops would have been preferred to the "larger moral negative" of a victory that boosted President Bush's chances for re-election, according to the Salon big.

"Many antiwar commentators have argued that once the war started, even those who oppose it must now wish for the quickest, least-bloody victory followed by the maximum possible liberation of the Iraqi people," Kamiya wrote. "But there is one argument against this: What if you are convinced that an easy victory will ultimately result in a larger moral negative — four more years of Bush, for example, with attendant disastrous policies, or the betrayal of the Palestinians to eternal occupation, or more imperialist meddling in the Middle East or elsewhere?

"Wishing for things to go wrong is the logical corollary of the postulate that the better things go for Bush, the worse they will go for America and the rest of the world."

Thus goes the reasoning at Salon, which is moderate compared to the hateful rantings of some U.S. leftists.

How ironic that the more these "liberals" reveal themselves to America, the more they boost a president they so despise.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aidandcomfort; antiamerican; antibush; bushdoctrineunfold; cheeringtheenemy; hate; iraqifreedom; liberals; losewar; notapeacemovement; prosaddam; saloncom; terror; theleft; traitors; treason; unamerican; war; warlist
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To: Tennessee_Bob
As Limbaugh said about this on his program today:

"How stupid do you have to be to put this in print and sign your name to it?"

I hope they continue with this kind of crap. I doubt that a lot of mainstream Democrat voters are signing on to this nonsence.

If they continue with this idiocy, the 2004 election will make the Reagan '84 landslide look like a squeaker by comparison.
21 posted on 04/18/2003 2:21:14 PM PDT by Yankee
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To: RoseofTexas
I just heard Rush read this item on the air.
22 posted on 04/18/2003 2:22:31 PM PDT by Chuckster
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To: RetiredArmy
Thanks for posting this. The Professional GW haters on the left and the so called far right hated to see us win.

I'm sure that in the privacy of their homes, they cheered when the two towers went down on 9/11/01!

You never hear these slim bags cheer the freed Iraqis. Or feel bad about mass Iraqi graves or terrible prison where even children were kept. You never hear them upset about the torture and mass murder commited by their buddies the Ba athists on innocent Iraqis.
23 posted on 04/18/2003 2:25:48 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: Reagan is King
I can't believe that Salon.com is going. What a POS venture it has been. It is typical of any business with libs in charge.
24 posted on 04/18/2003 2:26:49 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: RetiredArmy
They were overjoyed about the USA losing the Vietnam War also
25 posted on 04/18/2003 2:27:43 PM PDT by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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To: RetiredArmy
"One Million Mogadishu's."

-PJ

26 posted on 04/18/2003 2:28:06 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I'm across the street in One Union Square, 34th floor, scummy law firm.
27 posted on 04/18/2003 2:31:36 PM PDT by RetiredArmy
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To: uncbob
They were overjoyed about the USA losing the Vietnam War also

Here's the problem as I see it. To these people every military conflict since Vietnam is another Vietnam, no matter how much the facts fly in the face of that ridiculous misconception.

28 posted on 04/18/2003 2:33:39 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner (QUANDO OMNI FLUNKUS MORITATI: When all else fails, play dead)
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To: Falcon4.0
So great is their hatred of Republican/Conservatives that they would rather see 10's of thousands, even millions of people murdered by a dictator, than to see Republican Ideas prevail.

This is about what I expect from a bunch of pinko commies. I believe one day, we will have it out militarily with these slime bags, right here in our own land. I wish I could be more optimistic, but I am not.

29 posted on 04/18/2003 2:35:20 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: RetiredArmy
Whether they admitted it or not, it was obvious. Their hate for Bush is a thousand times greater than and and professed feelings of love for the Iraqi people or distaste for Saddam's murderous regeime to such a point that they wanted THOUSANDS of American service men and women to die just to make Bush look bad.
30 posted on 04/18/2003 2:36:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: RetiredArmy
Let us not forget the rat, Ellen Ratner, who said that she hopes that the war goes badly.
31 posted on 04/18/2003 2:40:55 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
Yup. That bitch has a column in Worldnetdaily.com on Fridays called Liberal and Proud. I hold my nose while surfing that site on Fridays. She's puke.
32 posted on 04/18/2003 2:46:31 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (We'll Kick Em in the Ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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To: kylaka
I can guarantee not one of these liberals had a son or daughter in Iraq.

...nor at the WTC on 9/11.

33 posted on 04/18/2003 3:08:30 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (South-south-west, south, south-east, east....)
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To: RetiredArmy
The left thinks four more years of Bush would be disastrous, but they are too myopic to realize that it would only be disastrous for themselves.

Every one else, including America, is prospering under Bush.

34 posted on 04/18/2003 3:15:11 PM PDT by ez (...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.)
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To: Thud
This says what we talked about earlier.
35 posted on 04/18/2003 3:18:04 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Reagan is King
I don't know what they are (besides scumbags!).

Fifth columnists.

36 posted on 04/18/2003 3:19:48 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: RetiredArmy
You work for a law firm in Seattle? Are you insane?

Why don't you just stay at home and hit yourself on the foot with a hammer every 20 minutes?

I was a legal assistant for the General Counsel of Seafirst for 5 years. He wasn't bad at all but, damn, Seattle attorneys are the reason I'm a computer programmer and not an attorney.

37 posted on 04/18/2003 3:23:34 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: RetiredArmy; All
There is a chatter in the political chatroom in sfwest.com who had a tagline up for a couple of days in where she said she hoped that 500,000 Americans would be killed and she thought that a suitcase with a nuclear bomb would be nice
38 posted on 04/18/2003 3:29:15 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Grampa Dave
What a POS venture it has been. It is typical of any business with libs in charge.

Agreed Grampa Dave, liberals think it's immoral to make a profit, lol.

The unbelievable thing is that the con artists just got $800,000 more in financing from some sucker.

Salon gets new round of financing

39 posted on 04/18/2003 3:41:25 PM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: Reagan is King
From your link:

The San Francisco-based media company also announced that 14 advertisers, including Mercedes-Benz and American Express, had signed contracts to purchase Salon's new "day pass" Intercept advertising unit. The day pass, which allows readers to access stories by watching a brief ad in lieu of becoming a subscriber, was launched on January 22nd.

I think Amex needs to be e-mailed a copy of this story. (Forget Mercedes-Benz)

40 posted on 04/18/2003 3:53:00 PM PDT by browardchad
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