SADDAM DRAINED THE GARDEN OF EDEN

Boston Globe ^ | 4/1/2003 | Fred Pearce

[van_erwin]

Saddam Hussein turned a thriving marshland into a poisoned desert. Can it be restored?

The project, which has been discussed only in outline by scientists so far, would be the largest and most ambitious recovery of a wetland ever attempted. It might cost tens of millions of dollars or more, but could be a model for reviving many other natural water reservoirs as the world staves off growing water shortages.

[Thinkin' Gal]

The ruins of Ur are marked on my map of Iraq, about 15 miles SW of Nasiriyah.

[RonF]

Why didn't they do something about it? Because Saddam tends not to listen to people who can't land Abrams tanks on his front yard.

[sergeantdave]

Are you pro-Saddam? I'm confused - are you defending what he did here?

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Okay -

Saddam = bad & evil

Greenpeace & World Wildlife Fund = bad & evil

Saddam murders people with guns, bombs and poison gas.

Greenpeace & World Wildlife Fund murder people with bribes and United Nation decrees

Both are guilty of democide - death by government

[js1138]

Lookas like a George Lukas film set.

[js1138]

Suddenly, pro-Soviet groups were discredited and the international peace movement was redundant. Many members of the left moved into the environmental movement bringing with them their eco-Marxism and anti-establishment sentiments.”

This is what Rush has been saying for years, but now we know the old Left has teamed up with the National Socialists.

[gcruse]

The first order of business after liberating these people from the tortured life under dictatorship will be the recreate the breeding grounds of malaria? Trading yellow ribbons for yellow fever.

[Ronzo]

Saddam Hussein = eco-terrorist

Now, if someone would just drain Louisianna...

[Dakotabound]

I'm sorry. The Garden of Eden is six miles from my house.

http://www.travelintelligence.net/wsd/articles/art_474.html

[Stultis]

Geez. I thought all along the left would only speak up about Saddam when it became aware of the environmental problems he caused and animals he killed. The heck with people.

I've met a number of pro-regime change conservatives who knew all about Saddam's destruction of the marshlands, and about Mugabe's thugs' destruction of parkland in Zimbabwe, including shooting elephants and giraffe just to watch them die, and about "brown clouds" and massive environmental posoining from China's coal-fired power plants and industries, and so on.

The lefty econ-nuts I meet never seem to know about any of this stuff. The greatest environmental crimes and depridations of the 20th century have nearly all been caused by third world despots, or by developing world regimes resonding to anti-growth ideologues, rather than by Western capitalists. This doesn't fit the eco-nazis' ideology, so the knowledge must be supressed.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST

[Carry_Okie]

The lefty econ-nuts I meet never seem to know about any of this stuff. The greatest environmental crimes and depridations of the 20th century have nearly all been caused by third world despots, or by developing world regimes resonding to anti-growth ideologues, rather than by Western capitalists. This doesn't fit the eco-nazis' ideology, so the knowledge must be supressed.

Your observation is correct, but the attribution to the knowledgeable leftist is not. The university crowd knows well the environmental destruction visited by "former communist" nations. There has been a flood of grant money for these creeps to go "help." Their belief is that these nations had their hearts in the right place but were driven to the choices they made by evil capitalist Americans who were competing unfairly and cutting environmental corners to do it. They believe that the correct redress is to go over there to help and use American funding to make things right, while doing everything possible to make certain that US producers are hamstrung so that American consumers have to buy the imported raw materials. Thus the plan continues to be to bring America down with more socialism (with them in charge) and all things then being "equal" these tragic circumstances will reverse so that we can all convert to global socialism where everything is "fair."

The left is still celebrating Lenin as an environmantal visionary, with his classic land use documents: On Land and On Forests. Little do they understand that theses documents were designed as a way to herd, impoverish, and starve the landed opposition to collectivized land use control. The Wildlands Project is just such a plan.

[sergeantdave]

Fascism and communism are two branches that grow from the same Marxist tree.

State control of private property and its resources is fascism. It's a good way for the bureaucrats to go because it gives them control over your property - you must get permission to do nearly anything - while giving you the illusion of ownership. Plus you get to pay taxes on something you don't control. Whoopee!

Until people connect fascism with government control of private property, expect to be whipped daily by the bureaucrats and their sock puppet politicians and judges.

So next time you go to a public meeting where the bureaucrats are pushing "sustainable development" or "viewsheds" or some other green lizard utopia, call the bureacrats and their NGO supporters fascists and watch the fun begin. Go to the meeting with two or three buddies who jump up at opportune times to shout: "What the hell you people pushing fascism for?"

Give 'em a quote from their buddy Hitler: "The Third Reich will always retain its right to control the owners of property."

This gets the crowd hopping mad and turns bureaucrats faces lobster red. Enjoy.

[sonofatpatcher2]

Re: ''You need a good depth of clear, unpolluted water for submerged vegetation to regrow.''

"Fill her up!"

[StopGlobalWhining]

[scouse]

Much of the attention of the international community after the Gulf War focused on Kurdish separatist activity in the north of the country. Little attention was paid to the plight of the Ma'dan in the south, although in April 1991, the United Nations passed Resolution 688 calling on Iraq "to provide free access to United Nations and non-governmental humanitarian agencies to all parts of the marshes so that essential humanitarian assistance can be provided."

Nevertheless, it stopped short of condemning the Iraqi government for its systematic destruction of the delicate habitat of the Tigris-Euphrates delta and its ancient inhabitants.

It was only in early 1995 that the European Parliament officially designated the Ma'dan a "persecuted minority" and called the Iraqi government's actions "genocide." That year the U.N. passed a resolution calling for an end to the draining of the marshlands and Iraqi military operations in the area.

"Thus proving once again that the U.N. and the Euro-Parliament are USELESS

[Sabertooth]

Depends on where you think Eden really is...

Has the Garden of Eden been located at last?

By Dora Jane Hamblin

[StopGlobalWhining]

Iraq: Devastation of marsh Arabs

[Avoiding_Sulla]

Those advocating banning DDT also knew that the organo-phosphate substitute was more toxic to the environment and to people. They did it anyway, in what may be the largest single act of mass-murder in the 20th Century.

Who specifically? And what details do you have to explain why they did this? What clearly motivated them, and what may have been additional motivations? Finally, how did they pull it off?

I know this is a lot, so how about some bullets that outline your extended answers?

[Elsie]

You must be near Lucas!

[Elsie]

Kansas, that is...........