'US SOLDIER ATTACKS TROOPS' [unsanitized discussion of MUSLIM treason suspect]

Sky News ^ | 3/22/03 | not given

[mondonico]

'US SOLDIER ATTACKS TROOPS'

An American Muslim soldier is understood to have carried out a grenade attack on a US military camp which injured 16 soldiers.

A second man, who is not a soldier, is thought to be held.

Three grenades were rolled into three tents housing military leaders of the 101st Airborne Division Saturday night at Camp Pennsylvania, home of the, near the Iraqi border, said Sky correspondent Stuart Ramsay, who is in the base.

The grenade that was rolled into the first tent, where the commanding officer sleeps, did not go off.

But two other grenades used to attack tents where the unit's majors and captains sleep did explode.

'Acting weird'

Ramsay watched as the suspects were held.

"Two men are being held, one of which is a Muslim soldier who is an engineer," Ramsay said.

"It appears he was hiding in a barrack where the attacks happened. A second man, who we believe is not an American soldier, is being held by the military.

"As the man who carried out the attack moved away there was some shooting. He was shot in the leg. He was held on the ground less than 100 yards from where the attack happened."

He said fears about the Muslim soldier's behaviour had been raised in recent days by colleagues.

Interrogation

"In recent days they were concerned about his behaviour and were not going to send him up to the front when the soldiers were going to be deployed."

It is not clear whether the soldier, who Ramsay said would have been in the Gulf for some weeks, had planned the attack before being deployed.

"To be honest we just do not know," Ramsay said.

"Talking to other soldiers, it could be that he was disgruntled. They said he had been acting 'weird' for days."

Eleven soldiers who were seriously hurt were flown out of the camp by helicopter.

[goodnesswins]

my "little" brother is in Cairo right now...well, near it on an oil rig.....for another week or so. Hearing "fatwa" makes me even more nervous.

[aristeides]

I'm not so sure there wasn't a failure of security. Should a combat engineer have had access to grenades?

[Brian Allen]

<< Is Sky News reliable and truthful? Never heard of it. >>

Rupert Murdoch-NewsCorp-owned Sky is essentially Fox News, England.

[Keith in Iowa]

>>There's a chance that Rupert Murdoch owns Sky News in my estimation

No chance at all - it's a fact. Murdock owns 'em both - Fox & Sky...

[finnman69]

FOXjust showed a pic of the guy seated in custody...

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Jihad is on their doorsteps and they don't know it yet.

Some European countries are going to find out a lot sooner than us what Jihad means as soon as the Muslims become a majority. France, Denmark, and the Netherlands come to mind.

[Between the Lines]

Click the picture and read the caption. It isn't even in Iraq it is in S.Korea.

[Right_in_Virginia]

This is an honest report. A Sky News reporter "embedded" with the 101st Airborne gave a live eye witness account earlier this evening on Fox News.

It was chilling.

[DonQ]

When he is described as "an American Muslim soldier", I am not sure if he was born an American, whether his parents were American, whether his parents were Muslim, whether his brand of Islam is one of the conventional Arabic kinds or whether it's Farrakhan style, etc.

Getting these details clarified might help.

[XHogPilot]

Absolutely amazing how US press has quickly buried the "Moslem" tag on this traitor.

In the words of the so-so actor Jim Carey, in the part of "The Grinch", let's "GUT HIM LIKE A FISH!"

[baggadonuts]

The thing is, the term American Muslim Solidier is an oxymoron. If this guy's engineering battalion came under fire, his faith would not allow him to take up arms against his attackers. Muslim law will not allow it. Recently some muslim FBI agents refused to even wire tap other muslims on the grounds that it was against their faith.

[MarlboroRed]

Again, I hope you're right, because they seemed to have indiciations that this garbage at Camp Penn was a problem, and did nothing about it--he was slated not to go to the front, the reports say, but why leave him free to roam in that even? After all, we're talking about brigade HQ here, not his bunk mate.

Again, if we're talking about an Arab, you'd think people would be alert to possible threats--in fact, they should assume the Arab Muslim in the Services is a traitor, but this guy was apparently a Black muslim, and as I indicated, there more than 30,000 blacks in Kuwait and Iraq now, and if 5% are self-identified black muslim, i.e., Farakhan freaks, that leaves nearly 2,000 troops out there capable of a lot of damage.

I think all of this confirms the insanity of NOT racially, or ethnically or religiously profiling people. I think this maggot at Camp Penn was left to roam about because people knew he had a big mouth, and didn't want to stir allegations of racisim or something other such nonsense. It's the same insanity that led to 19 young Arab men, with one-way tickets, aboard the planes on September 11.

[Between the Lines]

"FOXjust showed a pic of the guy seated in custody..."

You know everyone wants to know if he is black or middle eastern... spit it out.

[Objective Reality]

Treason with a capital T. Let me be on the firing squad.

Indeed. The U.S. Military MUST execute this traitor, immediately upon conviction. On many, many levels, I would wish that this campaign start to be conducted with the same principles as WWII. This would be an excellent starting point.

[ontos-on]

Fair enough; see post # 36. It was on Wabc radion in NYC at about 930pm

[Steve Eisenberg]

So why shouldn't all muslims by DEFINITION be barred from US military service ???

One reason is that it would be political suicide for the GOP.

IMHO, the folks who make these kind of suggestions are, most of them, good people, but what they are saying tends to discredit FR and conservatives generally.

The Israeli Defense Forces have, as a percentage, way more Muslim soldiers than does the US. And I have never heard of an Arab-Israeli soldier killing Jewish ones. What this tells me is that we need to better screen incoming soldiers to make sure they are patriotic, not to set up a religious litmus test.

[Leroy S. Mort]

Even stranger that they would use this particular picture.

[Huber]

Isn't it interesting that the first coverage of this incident (before it was understood have been a traitorous act by a US soldier) described it as an act of terrorism. Isn't terrorism something that is done to civilian noncombatants to strike terror into the population, and not an action of? It seems that the choice of this term by the press indicates a continued desire to build a moral equivalancy between terrorism and the open warfare practiced by the US.

[Knuckle Sandwich Combo]

FOX REPORTING that motive was likely "RESENTMENT".

[Ciexyz]

Let me be on the firing squad.

I'll chip in toward buying the bullets.