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'US SOLDIER ATTACKS TROOPS' [unsanitized discussion of MUSLIM treason suspect]
Sky News ^ | 3/22/03 | not given

Posted on 03/22/2003 7:10:19 PM PST by mondonico

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To: Duramaximus
Take a number.
301 posted on 03/23/2003 11:33:39 AM PST by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Jeff Head
"They'd best get a handle on this ... apparently two Kuwaiti "contract translators" may also have been involved helping him. I have heard that in one case, when officers and others came out of the tent after the grenade was thrown in, they took those escaping under small arms fire."


The fix is in on this one. Seems like all news coverage of the event today has a "disgruntled" soldier acting alone and striking out against his superiors. This picture is being painted by omission, but it appears as if political correctness has carrier the day.
302 posted on 03/23/2003 2:03:09 PM PST by applemac_g4
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To: Diddle E. Squat

According to the American Anthropological Association, Race is Culture!

AAA says in their statement on race that race doesn't really exist, it's culture.
Culture is a library of behavior inherited from their environment.
Even criminal behavior can be inherited!
Poverty and crime can be inherited just like wealth and good citizenship
303 posted on 03/23/2003 3:41:12 PM PST by nanomid
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To: Kozak
IMHO, in the future there will be no room for tolerating the evil fringe, whether they be Muslim or communist or anything else that crops up. In this day and age of facilitated movement (of both people and money) and communications, there is not the luxury of time. Vigilance must be the codeword from now on.

And, it would seem I was wise not to take you up on your bet, as it seems our nutcase was a recent convert to Islam, and "against the war".
304 posted on 03/23/2003 3:48:31 PM PST by visualops
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To: brigette; refreshed
 
LOL... I hope someone IS STILL ANSWERING your question!
305 posted on 03/23/2003 3:53:25 PM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: Duramaximus
Since there is a lot I do not know about Islam and the like, I am trying not to oversimplify things and break out the proverbial "broad brush" on this religion or all of it's adherants, for that matter.

Since "Muslims", much like members of other World Faith Traditions (Christianity included, sad to say) seem to spend a fair amount of time and energy in the extermination of others of their own Faith, I think that it would be safe to assume that there are "Muslims", and then there are "muslims", and a bewildering plethora of shades in between.

"Sunis" and "Sufis" seem to be at each other's throats every bit as much as "Catholics" and "Protestants" in Northern Ireland. So does this prove that Christians are every bit as fratricidal as Muslims? I certainly hope not!

Having said that, I think a Soldier's chosen faith system should be considered when granting security clearences, assignments and the like. If the tenets of one's Faith are inconsistant with one's allegiance to Unit or Country, then that dissonance should be taken seriously. At one point, Members of the "Society of Freinds" or "Quakers" who are a traditionally pacifist sect of Christianity were routinely assigned to non-combattant roles in the Military, where they served with valor and distinction. In WW-I, they were issued distinctive uniforms, which I do not think they took to be particularly demeaning or prejudicial at the time.

Some would call it "racial/religious profiling" and be offended, but if it saves lives - or the life of a Nation - so be it!

And while we're on the subject, it seems that (according to a FOX News Consultant) out of the 13 Muslim Chaplains currently in the US Army, 9 of them belong to that radical, fundimentalist sect. We should be seriously re-evaluating the level of "tolerance" shown to these cats and investigating their activities and loyalties closely, as well as those to whom they "minister".

I know this won't happen, but I would like to see the firing squad made up of the Perps fellow Moslems of the 101st. If any of them show the least reluctance to immediately obey their orders, they should be taken out of Theater immediately and discharged.
Then watched very closely for a year or two, as I have a feeling all US Military Moslems will probably be, at some level or another, for quite some time. I would not want one behind me in a Battle, sorry to say.

We might not be surprised if we see a few "accidents" occuring from time to time, in which some of these Brothers of Islam happen upon unfortunate circumstances. The "Screaming Eagles" were a very close-knit, Patriotic bunch of AMERICANS back when I was in the Army (I was not among them, but knew enough of them to be impressed) and did not seem to be the sort to suffer divided allegiences within their ranks all that well.
Nor do I think that they would be awfully open to or tolerant of infiltration from any Enemy, foriegn or domestic.

Unless the Army has been largely "enlightened" by New-Age Sensitivites since my DD-214 came through in 1970, some of the codes they live, fight, and if need be die for are not all written down in some book.

They have been passed along from Old Soldiers to raw Recruits since the days of flintlock smoothbores and tricornered covers.

Had your humble Correspondant any influence in the affairs of this rumble, I would respectfully suggest that the 101st Airborne Division of the United States Army be left the hell alone.

They have a long reputation for taking care of themselves and their own, as well as the Country and people they serve and defend consistantly with distinction and gallantry.

Military History will indicate, I think, that anyone who has ever faced them accross a Battlefield quickly learned to avoid meddling with them as much as they possibly could. And i fully expect that when the smoke of this nasty affair in Iraq eventually clears, that this ledgendary and heroic reputation will march on perhaps bloody, but unbowed, towards it's destiny unsullied by such events as we have seen of late.

Roll on, Screamin' Eagles! HU-Rah!
306 posted on 03/23/2003 7:36:58 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (MOXIE(R); It ain't for everyone, Y'know...)
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To: majordivit
Gee; If I had a million bucks I'd gladly send the Herut and JTF a couple of thousand.

As it is, unfortunately, I'm chronically unemployed after several failed careers and multiple "jobs" in which no particular "success" has ever crowned our efforts, and no prospect of financial independance has been in sight for some time now. Were it not for a long-suffering, hard working and tolerant Wife, I'd be living under a bridge somewhere, if at all.

But I hear ya, Mate!

Shalom Israel!
307 posted on 03/23/2003 7:58:36 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (MOXIE(R); It ain't for everyone, Y'know...)
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To: Happy2BMe
Re this Islamic agenda to take over the USA by 2020;

Are the Islamonazis in competition with the global Marxist Communists who, I suspect, have been using very similar if not identical tactics of incremental infiltration and subversion since the early 1930's... or are they in cahoots?

The Marxist / Islamonazi connection we have heard proposed here on occasion regarding Saddamn Hussain is interesting; would anyone here care to expound on that alleged connection and it's larger implications, or provide links to sources of evidence for same?

Thanks.
308 posted on 03/23/2003 8:32:27 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (MOXIE(R); It ain't for everyone, Y'know...)
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To: TheBattman
Re.: "This guy will get off with 30 days and a dishonorable discharge. He will then go on to write a book about the opressive US.

Don't bet the farm on it.

The Screaming Eagles are having a little heart-to-heart chat whith this IslamoTraitor, or at least have had one before the PC Sensitivity / ACLU Brigade got to him.

And are they ever P!$$ed!

The Airborne, as I recall, has a rather limited tolerence for this sort of thing.

Even if he does survive to return to civilian life, he will likely be looking behind him and not sleeping well for quite some time to come, wherever he tries to hide.

I for one rather expect that sooner or later, in one way or another, Justice will be served.

The Screaming Eagles take care of their own. Please correct me if I'm wrong about that.

309 posted on 03/23/2003 8:51:36 PM PST by Uncle Jaque (MOXIE(R); It ain't for everyone, Y'know...)
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To: Uncle Jaque
"The Marxist / Islamonazi connection we have heard proposed here on occasion regarding Saddamn Hussain is interesting; would anyone here care to expound on that alleged connection and it's larger implications, or provide links to sources of evidence for same?

Here is a small start - I'll get bak atcha.

PBS Shame On You: A former Muslim speaks.

The O'Reilly Factor - USF's Sami Al Arian's Arrest (And What The Muslims Say About It)

Fatwa: Coming to a Country Near You--Islamic death bounties ain't hard to find
Source: FrontPageMagazine.com; Published: December 6, 2002; Author: David Harsanyi

Why we are losing the war
Source: Guardian Unlimited; Published : December 1, 2002

Islam - Green Wall Of Silence - III
Source: PakToday : Published: November 25, 2002; Author: Tashbh Sayyed

Black Muslims Create 'Explosive Mix' in Terror War, Says Author
Source: CNSBNEWS.com; Published: November 14, 2002; Author: Marc Morano

Of course, the great majority of Muslims are peaceful -- so what?
Source: Jewish World Review; Published: November 5, 2002; Author: DENNIS PRAGER

Ramadan: A Month of Peace?
Source: Toogood Reports; Published: November 4, 2002; Author:| Alan Caruba

The Seamless Garment Of Hate: The Beltway Sniper Shootings And Islam/Nation of Islam
Source: Toogood Reports; Published:| November 1, 2002; Author: Nicholas Stix

Barbara Stanley: American Jihadist Terrorism - Conversion And Recruitment
Source: Toogood Reports; Published: October 28, 2002; Author: Barbara Stanley

Jihadis in the Hood: Race, Urban Islam and the War on Terror
Source: Middle East Report; Published: Fall 2002; Author: Hisham Aidi

The Radical Islamic Mind (lengthy exposé from Christian perspective)
Source:Spiritual Counterfeits Project; Published: Sept 2002; Author: Aleesha Khan

Naming The Evildoers: Militant Islam Reaches America
Source: New York Times BOOK REVIEW; Published:| September 29, 2002; Author: Judith Miller

DEPRIVING THE ARABS OF THEIR PREY
Source: WINSTON MID EAST ANALYSIS & Published: September 13, 2002; Author: Emanuel A. Winston

A Hatred Beyond Understanding
Source: Sierra Times; Published: September 9, 2002; Author: Alan Caruba

Saving Islam from bin Laden [Christopher Hitchens]
Source:The Age (Melbourne); Published: September 5 2002; Author: Christopher Hitchens

Muslim leaders pledge to 'transform West': 'If Islamic state rises, we will be its army'
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: August 13, 2002; Author: Jon Dougherty

WHAT went wrong with the Arab world?
Source: Economist; Published: July 10, 2002

Today's Criminal Will Become Tomorrow's Islamic Terrorist
Source: CNSnews.com; Published: June 25, 2002; Author: C.T. Rossi

David Horowitz: Know The Enemy (And What He Believes)
Source: FrontPage magazine; Published: June 24, 2002; Author: David Horowitz

Four Myths About Muslims
Source: CNSNews.com; Published: June 13, 2002; Author: C.T. Rossi

Trying To Find A `Moderate' Islam Is A Quixotic Quest
Source: CNSNews.com; Published: May 20, 2002; Author: C.T. Rossi

The Islaming of Europe
Source: CNSNews.com; Published: May 20, 2002; Author: Alan Caruba

Why Islam Can't Join the Modern World
Source: FrontPageMagazine.com; Published: May 16, 2002; Author: Jamie Glazov

It's The Attitude, Stupid [re: Palestinians]
Source: Toogood Reports; Published: May 14, 2002; Author: Philip Safran

Reports of Moderate Islam's Existence Have Been Greatly Exaggerated
Source: CNSNews.com; Published: April 22, 2002; Author: C.T. Rossi

It's time to snap out of Arab fantasy land {Steyn}
Source: National Post; Published: April 19 2002; Author: Mark Steyn

HOROWITZ: A MIDDLE EAST HISTORY PRIMER
Source: News and Opinion.com; Published; April 10, 2002; Author: David Horowitz

Arafat Must Go!
Source: CNSNews.com; Published: April 10, 2002; Author: Alan Caruba

Netanyahu speaks before US Senators
Source: http://netanyahu.org/netspeacinse.html; Published: April 10, 2002; Author: Benjamin Netanyahu

20 Suppressed Facts About Israel, Islam
Source: Koenig's International News; Published: April 9, 2002; Author: Jim Bramlett

They Live to Die (Islam Martyrdom)
Source: Wall Street Journal; Published: April 7, 2002; Author: Reuel Marc Gerecht

Moral Fortitude Vs. Vacillation
Source: CNSNews.com ; Published: April 01, 2002; Author: Alan Caruba

Terror's Homebase, All Over The Map -- Jihad: The Trail of Political Islam
Source: Wall Street Journal-- Book Review; Published: | March 29, 2002; Author: Adrian Karatnycky

Islam Vs. The World
Source: Toogood Reports; Published: December 2, 2001; Author: Alan Caruba

Arab World Poverty -- Whose Fault?
Source: Capitalism Magazine; Published: 11/18/01; Author: Larry Elder

Will the Real Islam Please Stand Up!
Source:Van Jenerette Editorial Comment, Various Publications;
Published: October 14, 2001; Author: Van Jenerette

Civilization Envy
Source: National Review Online; Published: September 28, 2001; Author: Jonah Goldberg

What We Are Up Against: Islamic Jihad Factories
Source: New York Times Magazine; Published: July 25, 2000; Author: Jeffrey Goldberg

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Muslim Youth to Launch Martyrdom Operations Against the U.S.

Hey You, Infidel!

A young Muslim man, who refused to give his name, shows his feelings toward the media outside the Federal Court House in Buffalo, New York September 18, 2002 where he sat to show his support for the six local suspected al-Qaida supporters who appeared inside the court, September 18, 2002. The six men have been charged with providing material support to al Queda from nearby Lackwanna, New York.

Preacher 'encouraged Muslims to wage war on all non-believers'

Twenty-Year Plan for USA: Islam Targets America

310 posted on 03/24/2003 7:36:40 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: avenir
Do we do anything for treason any longer?

I think we elect the scumbag to the Senate as a Dimocrat.

Shalom.

311 posted on 03/24/2003 7:52:47 AM PST by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Happy2BMe
Wow, Happy!; That was quite a homework assignment you just handed out there!

Many of those links have already been E-mailed around to fellow Christians in the New England area.

Thanks!

Shalom Israel! (From a Yankee Baptist).
312 posted on 03/25/2003 9:11:47 AM PST by Uncle Jaque (MOXIE; Much like Bagpipe or Kletzmer Music... It ain't for everybody!)
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