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SF Police Find Cache Of Molotov Cocktails
KTVU TV ^ | 1:11 p.m. PST March 21, 2003

Posted on 03/21/2003 1:44:14 PM PST by FreedomPoster

SF Police Find Cache Of Molotov Cocktails

POSTED: 1:11 p.m. PST March 21, 2003
UPDATED: 1:15 p.m. PST March 21, 2003

SAN FRANCISCO -- San Francisco arson investigators removed 12 Molotov-type cocktails on Friday from a backpack discovered by a groundskeeper cleaning up debris left by anti-war protesters in a downtown alley way.

Molotov cocktails The investigators carefully removed the homemade devices -- consisting of old liquor bottles filled with gasoline and having a wick -- and fingerprinted them. Police said the site where the devices were found was an area near 11th and Howard that had been traversed several times by a rather violent group demonstrators during Thursday's protests.

The backpack was found stashed under a bush.

Meanwhile, raucous bands of demonstrators marched through San the city's streets Friday in the largest of many anti-war protests around the country. Smaller groups also demonstrated in support of U.S. troops.

"We will sustain this for many days. This is really just the start," said Jamie Hurlbut, a San Francisco office worker who was blocking downtown traffic as the sun came up Friday after spending eight hours in custody Thursday.

"I literally went to sleep and came back out to hit the streets again," he said.

From a morning die-in outside the federal building in Sacramento that resulted in 30 arrests to an attempt in Capitola to block entrance to a military recruiting center that ended in about a dozen arrests, actions ranging from tearful candlelight vigils to chaotic occupations of streets continued in earnest on Friday.

In Rohnert Park, Sonoma State University staff, faculty and students held a first day of spring rally while in Irvine, high school students were organizing a candelight vigil.

At the same time, pro-military activists also turned out to spread their support for the troops from Bakersfield to Berkeley.

"The people who scream the loudest are a fringe minority," said Rob McFadden, a senior politics student at UC Berkeley who passed out yellow ribbons in support of U.S. soliders. "But the fact is they're not the majority and most people support this action."

In West Los Angeles, five people waved American flags in front of the French consulate to protest that country's opposition to the war. They held signs saying "What is France hiding?" and shouted at passing cars: "Boycott France" and "Support our troops."

Larger anti-war demonstrations and vigils were scheduled for Saturday in San Francisco and Los Angeles, while in Long Beach the Surfrider Foundation was coordinating the formation of a giant peace sign consisting of 400 surfboards. In Palo Alto, a multifaith prayers of lament meeting was planned by the First Presbyterian Church.

Arrests -- Friday On Friday, San Francisco continued to be the focal point for anti-war activism.

Before the morning fog had even burned off, police in San Francisco had already arrested more than 80 demonstrators, following a chaotic Thursday when police conceded they completely lost control of the crowds despite arresting about 1,400 people -- including 18 on felony charges.

By Friday morning, police said almost everyone had been released from custody but that they had learned their lesson, and would be bolstered by 450 California Highway Patrol officers determined to keep bridges and major arteries open.

"They think they can do this indefinitely. Not anymore," said police spokesman Dwayne Tully, who said the department had already spent $450,000 containing the protests.

Demonstrators said the change was palpable as police kept the crowd contained and moved in quickly to make arrests.

"Today feels more tense," said Deborah Cooper who brought her son, Casey, 11, with her. "I'm sure the cops are tired and they've gotten a lot of grief."

In downtown Los Angeles on Friday, 27 people were arrested for blocking the street in front of the federal building.

As demonstrators cheered, police in faceshields took away protesters one by one after they had linked arms and sat down in the street.

One of those arrested was Vanessa Acosta, 45, of Highland Park. She knelt in the street and prayed the rosary. She held a sign saying "Peace is the first casualty in war."

She held her hands together in prayer as she was led away.

"I want to give a little bit of myself ... the people in Iraq don't know who I am but at least I know that I'm with them," she said.

And in Sacramento, U.S. marshals arrested about 30 protesters who were blocking the entrances to the federal building.

"I believe we have an illegal government that stole the election, is robbing the treasury and is waging a war against a country that can't resist," said Murray Cohen, 65, before police took him away.



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To: KneelBeforeZod
I just want to reach out and CHOKE SOMEONE
41 posted on 03/21/2003 2:03:31 PM PST by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All
Good job.

Boy, you know you've posted a good thread when you go away for 15 minutes or less, and there are 30-40 new posts!
42 posted on 03/21/2003 2:03:31 PM PST by FreedomPoster (This Space Intentionally Blank)
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To: river rat
BUMP!

So much for peaceful protest. Next comes the bricks and molotov cocktails.
44 posted on 03/21/2003 2:03:54 PM PST by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"Disband "International A.N.S.W.E.R." at once as a seditious, terrorist group."

A number of the members of this terrorist organization should be behind bars. The more I learn about these people, the more I am convinced that you are correct. Brian Becker, Co-Director of IAC/ANSWER, has an office in San Francisco IIRC.
45 posted on 03/21/2003 2:04:41 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: kristinn; tgslTakoma; Angelwood
see previous ping

cathy, maybe you'd better count me out for that speaking spot on sunday;
that is, unless you want a firebrand on stage ...


46 posted on 03/21/2003 2:06:35 PM PST by tomkat
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To: Ben Hecks
Anarchists have long said that they envision a different form of "government" than our constitutionally defined 3 branches (it is socialism). When they add violence to their political movement, they should be shut down as a threat to government.
47 posted on 03/21/2003 2:09:48 PM PST by weegee (McCarthy was right, Fight The Red Menace)
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To: FreedomPoster
Thanks for posting this.

This is an old trick of the anarchists in the NW, (Seattle and Portland).

They will leave backpacks, molotov cocktails and other violent terrorist weapons hidden in bushes, behind trash cans.

When the cops chase them or things get tense, they run to where they stashed the weapons of terror. Grab them and then run to use them.

Cops in these areas know to search these areas that join a protest area or approach a protest area.
48 posted on 03/21/2003 2:12:11 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: Ben Hecks
I suggest calling the FBI on International A.N.S.W.E.R. today, as they clearly and blatantly vow to 'shut down the war machine/shut down the USA government' at a time our nation is at both Congressionally-sanctioned WAR and at CODE ORANGE against terrorism.

If this is not a federal crime, I don't know what is. Thisis treason. This is sedition. This is aiding and abetting the Enemy of the Unites States as well as International Terrorism. And they are doing it right out in the open and on the internet.

If the FBI is too busy with al Qaida, I suggest telephone calls to local police agencies indicating what this group is proposing, and asking them to take action.

49 posted on 03/21/2003 2:22:06 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (JapanTV showed report on Kim Jong il. He watches CNN regularly. Imagine his thoughts watching Iraq!)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
I see all this stuff and I am trying very hard to maintain my composure. What is wrong with these people?
50 posted on 03/21/2003 2:22:49 PM PST by HOYA97
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To: FreedomPoster
Hmmmm? This goes along nicely with the letter I just sent to the SF Chronicle. I indicated I was "concerned" that the protestors were distracting the police from being able to protect us from terrorists.
51 posted on 03/21/2003 2:23:22 PM PST by CyberAnt ( -> -> -> Oswego!!)
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To: Centurion2000
Start shooting to kill ... this is crazy.

Seems appropriate to make a statement that any demonstrator spotted with a Molotov Cocktail in his hand may be shot by a police sniper. Of course, SF officials don't have the guts to take such a position.

52 posted on 03/21/2003 2:23:24 PM PST by toddst
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To: FreedomPoster
Couldn’t happen to a better city. Hope they burn it down.
53 posted on 03/21/2003 2:23:35 PM PST by Lockbox
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To: FreedomPoster
Ah yes..."peaceful" protesters...

Isn't that what we hear? They're all about "peace" right?

And this differs from terrorism how?

54 posted on 03/21/2003 2:24:14 PM PST by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: HOYA97
"All we saying ... is give peace a chance!"
- John Lennon

NOT!

Simple, Hoya, if you look at the lists of organizations that sponsor these antiwar demonstrations, they are usually very BAD people who hate this country.
55 posted on 03/21/2003 2:25:45 PM PST by MattGarrett
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To: FreedomPoster
One of those arrested was Vanessa Acosta, 45, of Highland Park. She knelt in the street and prayed the rosary. She held a sign saying "Peace is the first casualty in war."

She held her hands together in prayer as she was led away.

"I want to give a little bit of myself ... the people in Iraq don't know who I am but at least I know that I'm with them," she said.

Yeah, the people of Iraq just love their oppressors: Saddam's son beats 12-year-olds who say no to sex: defectors

56 posted on 03/21/2003 2:28:37 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion
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To: Tailback
His stash?
57 posted on 03/21/2003 2:34:04 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Stashing stuff in the bushes along a "demonstration" route is standard practice for the Black Bloc folks and others influenced by them. When they had their little frolics last fall in Denver, the police got word of it and went along and removed bags and bags of items - nail studded sticks, molotov cocktails, slingshots, etc. - from bushes, trash cans and other places in the downtown area. The creeps had stashed them over the course of several days in preparation for their fun. Boy, were they surprised when they got the signal from their leaders, ran to get the stuff out of the bushes, and found - nothing!

That said, I think you're right. This goes way beyond peaceful protest, and I don't know why these people are not getting the charges and the punishment they deserve.
58 posted on 03/21/2003 2:36:19 PM PST by livius
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To: weegee
That's a funny thing, too. Anarchy is a complete lack of government and law. These morons call themselves anarchists but their definition is off. What they really are is socialist brown shirts, no different from Hitler's (or Stalin's) lackeys.
59 posted on 03/21/2003 2:38:54 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Their movement is really known as anarchist-socialism. I don't believe that it incorporates elections. They still want a social support structure (things like public health care). They believe that funding would be voluntary.

They believe in Eutopia.

I got into a discussion on anarchism with some troll here on FR. He eventually got banned but he felt that he wasn't a traitor to America because he saw the anarchist movement taking several more generations to overthrow the American government (he conceded that it would not happen in his lifetime). I still say that he was guilty of treason.

60 posted on 03/21/2003 2:53:23 PM PST by weegee (McCarthy was right, Fight The Red Menace)
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