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AW Ban Sunset Congressional Dream Team?
Armed Females of America ^ | 18 March 2003 | Mike Caswell

Posted on 03/19/2003 9:39:51 AM PST by 45Auto

So, now that the post-election dust has settled, how are things looking for us in the House, Senate, and White House? Let's start with the President.

WHITE HOUSE

Though President Bush did voice support for the "current ban" during his campaign, he appears to be backing away from this stance now. During recent Senate testimony, Attorney General John Ashcroft would not give a firm answer to the relentless ban renewal questioning from Sens. Feinstein (D-CA) and Schumer (D-NY), instead saying the White House intended to study the issue further (in Washington, "study" generally means "it's dead"). Feinstein was flabbergasted, but Ashcroft rightfully cited the NIJ report released in 1999 that indicates the ban has had an "uncertain" effect on crime ("uncertain" is a very charitable way to put this... "nonexistent" is closer to reality).

This could provide a very convenient and plausible way out for the President. After all, he reportedly said he supported the "current ban". This legislation, passed in 1994, included a sunset provision and mandated that a study be performed to determine its effect on crime. The reason for this is obvious... to provide a mechanism to automatically remove this restrictive infringement on Americans' rights if not proven to have a significant public safety benefit. Though somewhat reminiscent of something the previous administration would pull, it is certainly within the realm of possibilities that Bush could "refine" his position, clarifying that he supports ALL aspects of the ban, including the expiration provision and "burden of proof" of effectiveness. Because the ban has not had a significant impact on crime, it should not be renewed.

However, we cannot count on the President to veto a renewal bill. At best, we should consider him a passive asset to our efforts, because it is highly unlikely that he would twist arms in Congress to get a renewal to his desk. While this may not be a perfect situation (a promised veto would be ideal!), things would be much worse if Al Gore had won the election.

SENATE

Moving on to the Senate, where we have a slight pro-gun majority, a renewal MIGHT pass if it made it to the floor. But the key phrase here is "if it made it to the floor". When a new ban is introduced, it will then be referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee, where it will undergo intense scrutiny and debate. Both sides of the issue will have an opportunity to testify during hearings. After these proceedings, a vote is taken to determine the fate of the bill. It can be sent back to the full Senate (where it would likely be scheduled for a vote on final passage).

Thankfully, since the Senate is now under Republican leadership, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) is the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Sen. Hatch voted against adding the "Feinstein Assault Weapons Amendment" to the Senate Crime Bill in 1993, and also voted against final passage of this bill. In addition, he voted against a 1999 amendment by Feinstein to ban the importation of full-capacity magazines. While he controls the agenda of the committee, this does not necessarily mean he would, could, or should singlehandedly kill a renewal. But, being firmly on our side, we can at least be assured that we'd be given a fair shake. A Judiciary Committee run by an anti-gun Democrat would almost guarantee a rubber-stamp approval of Feinstein's bill, ignoring the vast array of facts that point to the ban's ineffectiveness.

The makeup of this committee is very interesting. Republican members include reliably pro-gun faces such as Kyl (R-AZ), Craig (R-ID), Chambliss (R-GA), and Cornyn (R-TX), pitted against rabid gun haters Feinstein (D-CA) and Schumer (D-NY) (the mother and father of the current ban), as well other gun grabbers such as Durbin (D-IL), Kennedy (D-MA), and Feingold (D-WI).

Sparks are definitely going to fly during that hearing!

The only potential fly in the ointment here is Mike DeWine (R-OH), whose voting record shows him to be disappointingly anti-gun (though not nearly as bad as Schumer and Feinstein). He could theoretically join with the Democrats on the committee, giving them enough votes to send the bill back to the full Senate with a favorable report. All of the remaining Republican members have solid pro-gun voting records, almost all of them having cast votes against the "assault weapons" ban.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) is somewhat pro-gun, but Majority Whip Mitch McConnell, who is responsible for coordinating Republican votes and strategy in the Senate, is solidly on our side, having a good pro-gun record and voting against the ban in 1993.

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Things look much better for us in the House of Representatives. Not only do we have a decent pro-gun majority, we also have a fantastic leadership situation. The Speaker of the House, Denny Hastert (R-IL) voted against the ban in 1994, and for the repeal in 1996, as did House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX). House Majority Whip Roy Blunt (R-MO) was not in office then, but also is very pro-gun. In short, if a ban renewal were to make it to the floor for a vote, it would likely fail.

In the House Judiciary Committee, we have what is probably the closest thing to a perfect makeup as could be expected. The committee is chaired by James Sensenbrenner (R-WI), a reliable supporter of Second Amendment rights. Like Speaker Hastert, Chairman Sensenbrenner voted on our side in 1994 and 1996. Every Republican on the committee, except for Henry Hyde (R-IL) is strongly pro-gun. Of those, the members who were in office for the 1994 vote on the ban, or 1996 repeal (about half the Republican members) all voted on our side. And as if that weren't enough, one of the Democrats on the committee, Frederick Boucher (D-VA), is also pro-gun and voted our way in '94 and '96.

This puts the House Judiciary Committee with a solid 21-15 pro-gun majority. Though we do not want to sound over-confident, it would be a miracle if a ban renewal made it out of this committee alive.

SUMMARY

We should keep in mind that a repeal, passed by both houses of Congress and signed by the President, is not necessary for the ban to sunset. In fact, the exact opposite is true, as the burden is on advocates of the ban to successfully navigate their proposed legislation through a Congress that is not at all warm to the idea of passing any gun control measures. A renewal has to make it through the Senate Judiciary Committee (where it quite possibly could be killed), be passed by the full Senate (which might happen), survive the House Judiciary Committee (which almost certainly will not happen), and be passed by the full House (also highly unlikely) before reaching the President's desk for his possible signature.

All it takes is for the bill to be stopped at ANY one of those stages for us to be victorious. This is in stark contrast to the drive to repeal the ban in 1996. The repeal passed comfortably in the House, but was never voted on in the Senate, and would have been vetoed by President Clinton anyway.

It is critical that all gun owners in America be made aware of our current situation. While a ban renewal is thankfully looking highly improbable at this time, we still need to mobilize as many of our Second Amendment troops as possible to ensure success. Political apathy runs rampant among gun owners, largely due to the fact that pro-gun legislation over the past 8-10 years never seemed to get anywhere, but this is one fight that we can, and WILL, win.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: aw; banglist; goa; rkba; sunset
RKBA advocates must work to ensure the sunsetting of this Constitutionally repugnant law.
1 posted on 03/19/2003 9:39:52 AM PST by 45Auto
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To: *bang_list

2 posted on 03/19/2003 9:43:26 AM PST by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: 45Auto
BTTT!

Let the sun set on this one of the thousands of nonsensical firearms prohibitions in this country!

3 posted on 03/19/2003 9:48:04 AM PST by JFoxbear
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To: 45Auto
Great post. I'll be sure to let my congress-critter's know my opinion on the AW ban. My senators Lautenberg and Cortizone, are hopeless, but it will be fun to make the aides squirm on the phone (esp. when you sound so polite and reasonable).

My congressman, RINO in training Jim Ferguson, is one of those 50-50 gun voting Republicans. I'll be sure to get as many gun-rights supporters to enact a lot of pressure on him.
4 posted on 03/19/2003 9:49:42 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: 45Auto
What does this mean specifically?

I'm guessing high capacity clips will be okay to manufacture. But what other things? Will I be allowed to modify an AK to go full auto and I just pay a tax to the feds for registration like it used to be?

Will the importation of foreign weapons be relaxed?
5 posted on 03/19/2003 10:05:02 AM PST by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: Bogey78O
See http://www.building-tux.com/dsmjd/rkba/awb.htm for a fair summary of what the AWB currently prohibits.
6 posted on 03/19/2003 10:11:24 AM PST by CGTRWK
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To: 45Auto
Not entirely accurate. I believe Cornyn expressed support for banning "assault weapons" during his campaign.
7 posted on 03/19/2003 10:24:14 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Bogey78O
Will I be allowed to modify an AK to go full auto and I just pay a tax to the feds for registration like it used to be?

No. That was a different law altoghther that was passed by being sandwiched in the middle of a huge spending bill in 1986.

8 posted on 03/19/2003 10:24:46 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Bogey78O
If the law sunsets it will mean that you will not be restricted to ten round magazines, and that all the other banned cosmetic features, such as bayonet lugs, flash suppressors, and collapsible/folding stocks will again be legal. One will be able to acquire AK's and other sundry weapons. Full-auto is still under the 1934 NFA, so nothing will change in that area. In places like California, however, the sunset won't mean a thing, since entire weapons, such as the AR 15, are banned by (unconstitutional) state law. The real victory is more than symbolic, however, because it will signal a change in the direction of federal gun control mentality, and could have positive effects on unconstitutional state laws through the form of a myriad of possibly successful lawsuits from RKBA advocates.
9 posted on 03/19/2003 10:35:26 AM PST by 45Auto (Firearms put humans at the top of the food chain.)
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To: 45Auto
In my view (for what it's worth) We the People ought to set our sites on a mass assault to repeal the Gun Control Act of 1968.
10 posted on 03/19/2003 10:44:15 AM PST by JFoxbear
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To: hopespringseternal
Not entirely accurate. I believe Cornyn expressed support for banning "assault weapons" during his campaign.

I believe that you are incorrect. Cornyn never really said much about guns, just the usual RINO response of "I support the 2nd Amendment" with no specifics. I, and a bunch of other people on The Firing Line (now defunct, but most of the subscribers went to The High Road) tried to get Cornyn or his staff to pledge to work against a renewal - to no avail. His campaign also mentioned something about crime not being caused by equipment owned by law-abiding citizens, but that is so wishy-washy that it made me want to puke.

I believe that he did something rather anti- when he was the Texas AG, but that particular incident occurred before I escaped from the Peoples Republic of New Jersey with all of my "illegal" "high capacity" magazines, so I couldn't fairly comment on this.

Cornyn has his finger in the wind, waiting to see which direction it blows. However, he had BETTER vote against any renewal of any part of this illegal law, let alone any expansion or permanent extension, or he AND EVERY OTHER REPUBLICAN will have lost my vote, FOREVER! THAT'S RIGHT - ALL REPUBLICANS! I will be watching his votes in committee and on the floor VERY closely. Same for Kaye Bailey.

11 posted on 03/19/2003 1:58:00 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: 45Auto
I am confused. I thought that the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 was being renewed through the House of Representatives. Should we write our Senators about this and not the House of Representatives politicians?

I have already sent letters to the President and my elected official in the House of Representatives. I made about five copies of my letter to the President and had friends sign them and mail them off to George W. Bush. I encourage everybody to do the same. People are too lazy to write so write the letter for them.


You can bet my elected officials will hear more for me on this issue many times before September 2004.

Now is the time to turn up the heat!

12 posted on 03/19/2003 2:30:33 PM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender ("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
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