"Hi..I use to be Ron Silver"
Posted on 02/11/2003 9:33:21 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
Not all Hollywood celebrities are ungrateful, anti- American lefties. Prompted by a Wall Street Journal mention a couple of weeks ago about how actor Ron Silver denounced the head of the European parliament for his anti-American attitude, FNC's Beltway Boys brought Silver aboard their Saturday show.
Silver, who plays liberal campaign strategist "Bruno Gianelli" on NBC's The West Wing, made clear he does not agree with the politics of the show's "President Bartlet," Martin Sheen. Silver told Beltway Boys co-hosts Fred Barnes and Morton Kondracke that Europeans "criticisms are logically incoherent...they hold inconsistent views that we're utterly materialistic, and then we're insufferably religious. We're boring conformists, and then we're reckless individualists. We're racists, but then we're too politically correct." When Kondracke suggested it's a problem caused by George W. Bush since Europeans liked Bill Clinton, Silver refused to accept the premise.
MRC analyst Patrick Gregory noticed the interview segment on the February 8 program and checked the tape against the transcript.
Barnes segued into a discussion with Silver about anti- Americanism by recalling how last month in "Switzerland, for the International Economic Conference there, you had a run in with the head of the European parliament who accused or at least suggested that the U.S. has become an imperialist power in the world, and you responded rather aggressively to him. Tell us about that incident, and also about the level of anti-Americanism that you discovered there."
Silver recounted: "Yeah, that dinner was a culmination of events over the past several days where the subtext of almost every fora was anti-Americanism. It was very visceral, it was very intense, and to my way of thinking and some other people, it was very incoherent logically, and I'll get to that in a moment. But at that dinner, the EU had a dinner that night about the 'new Europe,' and they were being very self-congratulatory about their values, and implicitly they were suggesting that America was an imperial country, trying to impose their values on the rest of the world, which I don't think is a bad idea by the way, I kind of think our values are fairy universal and might be helpful. But we got, it was a question and answer period, and I think it was with Pat Cox, who was the President of the European parliament, and I asked him a question, and it got a little heated. What the Journal article left out is after that dinner, Pat and I went out and we had a jolly time drinking the night away."
Kondracke soon pressed Silver: "I take it thought that you judge from the entire experience that elite opinion in Europe is hostile to the United States. And I just wonder whether there is something that George Bush could have done coming on as President, because Bill Clinton didn't seem to have this problem."
Silver disagreed: "No, I don't think George Bush could have done anything. I think he's doing exactly the right thing, and I think it's genetic. It's written into the genetic code, the hostility toward America. I'm not an analyst, and perhaps a therapist would be better equipped to talk about it. But it's something going on that is so interesting, because their criticisms are logically incoherent, and they're very self- defeating, and I think it provides some sort of psychological comfort for them. But they hold inconsistent views that we're utterly materialistic, and then we're insufferably religious. We're boring conformists, and then we're reckless individualists. We're racists, but then we're too politically correct. It goes on and on and on."
Silver added: "I kind of link Rumsfeld's 'old Europe versus the new Europe,' and we saw it in the last two weeks, with France and Germany, who were not with us on June 6, 1944, I don't know why we expect them to be with us today."
Barnes: "Well they aren't."
Silver: "But a lot of other European unions you know, signed that letter and have come on board."
Asked why Hollywood is so anti-war, Silver suggested: "My opinion is that the entertainment community along with other advocates -- human rights organizations, religious organizations, are always on the front lines to protest repression, but they're always usually the first ones to oppose any use of force to take care of these horrors that they catalogue repeatedly, and I find that inconsistent as well."
Kondracke: "So was there, what was the tension like on the set of The West Wing, you and Martin J. Sheen?"
Silver: "Well we've kind of avoided politics, I mean Marty has his politics, I have my politics. I do like the fact that he is committed, I disagree strongly and vehemently with his views about most things. But I like the involvement, I think it's a civic duty to be involved and I'm glad he raises his voice."
For a transcript of the interview, with a photo of Silver: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,78141,00.html
As my old boss used to say "Just cause you're on a diet, don't mean you can't look at the menu"!
Leaopards don't change their spots, but it seems to me that Woods and Silver are honest old style semi-liberal democrats of the type that are becoming extinct as the FDR generation dies out.
Which makes its commercial success all the more rewarding; I just love the mental picture of Ted Turner paying Tom Selleck.
Ron Silver like James Woods is a Democrat. However, much to his credit he supported Giuliani every time he ran for mayor here in New York.
Leaopards don't change their spots, but it seems to me that Woods and Silver are honest old style semi-liberal democrats of the type that are becoming extinct as the FDR generation dies out.
Well said. I remember Woods' comment during Clinton's impeachment; he said the Republicans were motivated by principle. He was surprised they were willing to pursue impeachment despite public opinion being against them.
My thought also.
I will agree with you Rin.
"Hi..I use to be Ron Silver"
Haaaahaaahahaha! You're probably right. Now there's an episode I might even watch.
You had it right the first time. "A lot" is a two-word phrase, not one compound word.
Yes, I know. I am always very series about my spelling. ;-)
Yes. But I think Silver got turned around by Rudolph Giuliani, for whom he campaigned. He saw the wretched mess that New York City had become under continual Democratic rule -- especially under David Dinkins, who let radical blacks riot against Jews for three days unimpeded (and commit two murders in the process).
So I think Silver may be a Giuliani Republican. That is to say, a very liberal Republican, but better than your usual Hollywood moron.
You are, huh? ;)
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