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But Actor Ron Silver Stands Up for American Values & Bush
MRC ^ | 11:35am EST, Tuesday February 11, 2003 | Brent Baker

Posted on 02/11/2003 9:33:21 AM PST by fight_truth_decay

Not all Hollywood celebrities are ungrateful, anti- American lefties. Prompted by a Wall Street Journal mention a couple of weeks ago about how actor Ron Silver denounced the head of the European parliament for his anti-American attitude, FNC's Beltway Boys brought Silver aboard their Saturday show.

Silver, who plays liberal campaign strategist "Bruno Gianelli" on NBC's The West Wing, made clear he does not agree with the politics of the show's "President Bartlet," Martin Sheen. Silver told Beltway Boys co-hosts Fred Barnes and Morton Kondracke that Europeans "criticisms are logically incoherent...they hold inconsistent views that we're utterly materialistic, and then we're insufferably religious. We're boring conformists, and then we're reckless individualists. We're racists, but then we're too politically correct." When Kondracke suggested it's a problem caused by George W. Bush since Europeans liked Bill Clinton, Silver refused to accept the premise.

MRC analyst Patrick Gregory noticed the interview segment on the February 8 program and checked the tape against the transcript.

Barnes segued into a discussion with Silver about anti- Americanism by recalling how last month in "Switzerland, for the International Economic Conference there, you had a run in with the head of the European parliament who accused or at least suggested that the U.S. has become an imperialist power in the world, and you responded rather aggressively to him. Tell us about that incident, and also about the level of anti-Americanism that you discovered there."

Silver recounted: "Yeah, that dinner was a culmination of events over the past several days where the subtext of almost every fora was anti-Americanism. It was very visceral, it was very intense, and to my way of thinking and some other people, it was very incoherent logically, and I'll get to that in a moment. But at that dinner, the EU had a dinner that night about the 'new Europe,' and they were being very self-congratulatory about their values, and implicitly they were suggesting that America was an imperial country, trying to impose their values on the rest of the world, which I don't think is a bad idea by the way, I kind of think our values are fairy universal and might be helpful. But we got, it was a question and answer period, and I think it was with Pat Cox, who was the President of the European parliament, and I asked him a question, and it got a little heated. What the Journal article left out is after that dinner, Pat and I went out and we had a jolly time drinking the night away."

Kondracke soon pressed Silver: "I take it thought that you judge from the entire experience that elite opinion in Europe is hostile to the United States. And I just wonder whether there is something that George Bush could have done coming on as President, because Bill Clinton didn't seem to have this problem."

Silver disagreed: "No, I don't think George Bush could have done anything. I think he's doing exactly the right thing, and I think it's genetic. It's written into the genetic code, the hostility toward America. I'm not an analyst, and perhaps a therapist would be better equipped to talk about it. But it's something going on that is so interesting, because their criticisms are logically incoherent, and they're very self- defeating, and I think it provides some sort of psychological comfort for them. But they hold inconsistent views that we're utterly materialistic, and then we're insufferably religious. We're boring conformists, and then we're reckless individualists. We're racists, but then we're too politically correct. It goes on and on and on."

Silver added: "I kind of link Rumsfeld's 'old Europe versus the new Europe,' and we saw it in the last two weeks, with France and Germany, who were not with us on June 6, 1944, I don't know why we expect them to be with us today."

Barnes: "Well they aren't."

Silver: "But a lot of other European unions you know, signed that letter and have come on board."

Asked why Hollywood is so anti-war, Silver suggested: "My opinion is that the entertainment community along with other advocates -- human rights organizations, religious organizations, are always on the front lines to protest repression, but they're always usually the first ones to oppose any use of force to take care of these horrors that they catalogue repeatedly, and I find that inconsistent as well."

Kondracke: "So was there, what was the tension like on the set of The West Wing, you and Martin J. Sheen?"

Silver: "Well we've kind of avoided politics, I mean Marty has his politics, I have my politics. I do like the fact that he is committed, I disagree strongly and vehemently with his views about most things. But I like the involvement, I think it's a civic duty to be involved and I'm glad he raises his voice."

For a transcript of the interview, with a photo of Silver: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,78141,00.html


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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I needed to give as much attention to Silver as I did Gere in preceding story.
1 posted on 02/11/2003 9:33:21 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
I saw this interview. I knew Silver was a bit of a libertarian but in this interview his view aped mine.

He's a smart guy and eloquent, unlike me.

2 posted on 02/11/2003 9:36:58 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: fight_truth_decay
I would bet that more Hollywood people than you'd think agree with Silver. The list is growing. And those idiots out front like Clooney and Hoffman will soon look very stupid.
3 posted on 02/11/2003 9:37:19 AM PST by Inkie
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To: fight_truth_decay
Isn't this the Ron Silver of "Those are OUR planes now" infamy?
4 posted on 02/11/2003 9:38:14 AM PST by skeeter (Die dulci freure)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Re: the headline, how does one apply to get a job as a "But Actor"? And what needs to be included in the resume?
5 posted on 02/11/2003 9:38:34 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Bringing you grumpy bon mots since early '99. You're welcome.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
This was a heart-warming read this morning. Ron Silver's a really good actor, and it's nice to see he's pretty bright too. Not your average knee-jerk hollywood dummy.
6 posted on 02/11/2003 9:38:44 AM PST by RepoGirl (Cartman!? What are you talking about, Dude!?)
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To: Inkie
Dennis Hopper voted for Bush!
7 posted on 02/11/2003 9:39:14 AM PST by tictoc (Michael81Dus for chancellor)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Support Ron Silver Bump!!!!

-Regards, T.
8 posted on 02/11/2003 9:42:07 AM PST by T Lady (.Freed From the Dimocratic Shackles since 1992)
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To: RepoGirl
And to think that at one time I thought Ron Silver was the epitomy of the Hollywood Limousine Liberal. Who woulda thunk it!! I take back everything I said about the guy.
9 posted on 02/11/2003 9:42:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Hank Rearden
"But Actor"

You are very observant. The title makes Silver sound like he is a gay porn star.

10 posted on 02/11/2003 9:42:43 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: tictoc
Dennis Hopper voted for Bush!

Amazing what getting off of drugs can do for you.

11 posted on 02/11/2003 9:42:54 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: tictoc
Was the ballot made of hemp?
12 posted on 02/11/2003 9:42:55 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: skeeter
Isn't this the Ron Silver of "Those are OUR planes now" infamy?

Yes. it's good to see that he has "Grown".

13 posted on 02/11/2003 9:42:57 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: fight_truth_decay
I love it: "I'm not a leftist. I just play one on TV"

Actually, I've never seen "West Wing" because I don't watch the networks. His views are a breath of fresh air in the otherwise vile stench of Hollywood class elitism. I wish more alleged 'artist' types in Hollywood would break the mold of conformist anti-Americanism, think for themselves and come to their own conclusions like Silver.

...I bet "West Wing" is about to have a ratings increase...

14 posted on 02/11/2003 9:44:26 AM PST by cake_crumb (Without dictators, what reason would we have to keep the UN?)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Ron Silver is destined to join Tom Selleck in obscurity. The Hollywood Liberals don't tolerate those that don't agree with them.
15 posted on 02/11/2003 9:45:15 AM PST by Destructor
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To: tictoc
After that comment I think I need a drink, coffee here I come.
16 posted on 02/11/2003 9:46:59 AM PST by dts32041 (Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with a "4".)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I think I can live with his short comings.
17 posted on 02/11/2003 9:47:16 AM PST by tictoc (Michael81Dus for chancellor)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"But" was in his headline which followed the other Headline of Gere(posted)..so this was a followup..I believe that is the reason for "BUT".
18 posted on 02/11/2003 9:48:21 AM PST by fight_truth_decay (Occupied)
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To: fight_truth_decay; All
Great article here and agree with this guy. Question for all....What do you think is worse? Someone who is led by a conviction such as Martin Sheen? (misguided as it may be) or do you think someone (most Americans) who do not follow what is going on around them and lead a ho hum life completely oblivious to anything political and then go out and vote. I tend to back Shenn in his desire for politics in this instance. Even though I think the man is a whacko and completely ignorant I still believe that he is no less worse than those that do not care.
What do you all say??
19 posted on 02/11/2003 9:49:07 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice
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To: Destructor

20 posted on 02/11/2003 9:49:23 AM PST by bmwcyle (Semper Gumby - Always Flexable)
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