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Book claims Chinese discovered America
UPI ^ | Published 1/7/2003 11:49 AM | By FREDERICK M. WINSHIP

Posted on 01/11/2003 2:01:33 PM PST by vannrox

Book claims Chinese discovered America

By FREDERICK M. WINSHIP

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Life & Mind

Desk

Published 1/7/2003 11:49 AM

NEW YORK, Jan. 7 (UPI) -- Scattered evidence that Chinese explorers "discovered" America 71 years before Christopher Columbus and circumnavigated the earth 60 years before Ferdinand Magellan was born has been brought into convincing focus by a book published Tuesday that is expected to rewrite history.

British author Gavin Menzies first aired his theory of pre-Columbian visits by the Chinese to both North and South America in a lecture before the Royal Geographic Society in London last March, resulting in a bidding war for the book he spent 15 years writing to back up his claim. Publishing rights sold for $780,000, a phenomenal sum for a non-fiction book by an unknown author.

The book was published in England in November under the title "1421: The Year China Discovered America" and is now available in an augmented American edition published by William Morrow. A 16-page postscript in the new edition offers evidence that the body of a Chinese official was found buried at Teotihuacan, the pre-Aztec ceremonial site near Mexico City.

The Chinese-style tomb with Chinese inscriptions found by archaeologist William Niven at the base of the Pyramid of the Sun at Teotihuacan in 1911 contained a body identified as a Chinese or Mongolian wearing a necklace of jade, unknown in Mexico.

Menzies, who portions of the body were split between Swiss and Swedish collections, and he hopes to get permission to take DNA samples from the remains.

The author, a 65-year-old retired Royal Navy officer and navigation expert, began formulating his theory when he was shown a map of the world dated 1459 while doing research in Venice. The map clearly showed Southern Africa and the Cape of Good Hope, though Vasco da Gama did not "discover" the cape as a sea route to Asia until 1497. The map noted that a voyage had been made around the cape in 1420.

The map also bore a picture of a Chinese junk. Menzies believes the map was based on Chinese charts taken to Venice by a merchant traveler, Niccolo da Conti, who claimed in a book he wrote in 1434 that he joined a Chinese treasure fleet in India and sailed to China via Australia, 350 years before Captain Cook's expedition reached the Antipodes. There is no evidence of these Chinese charts, but Menzies presumes they existed.

His findings in Venice led Menzies to research existing Chinese documents describing the outfitting of a great treasure fleet by the Yongle Emperor, Zhui Di, under the command of his eunuch admiral Zheng Hi. The fleet of many-masted junks that were five times the size of European caravels and carried 1,000 men each made seven great voyages from 1405 to 1423 when the ships were mothballed as the result of an expensive land campaign against the invading Mongols.

It had long been known that Zheng Hi's ships sailed around Southeast Asia, crossing the Indian Ocean to the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf, but Menzies is convinced they also sailed around the Cape of Good Hope to Western Africa and across the Atlantic to the Eastern coast of North America, from Florida to Rhode Island, and parts of the South American coast. Other Chinese ships cleared Cape Horn and explored the Western coast of both South and North America, he claims.

Zheng Hi was also known by the name of Sin Bao, hence the legend that arose in Europe of the fabulous voyages of Sinbad the Sailor.

Menzies writes that after his lecture before the Royal Geographic Society, "new evidence began to pour in from all over the world, all of which had to be evaluated and checked for accuracy by experts." He said he has been notified of new discoveries from Vancouver Island to Chile that lend credence to his claim that Chinese fleets visited the Americas, leaving bloodline traces that only recently have been found in the DNA of Indians living in Northern Brazil, Venezuela, Surinam and Guyana.

In the United States, the accumulation of evidence of a pre-Columbian Chinese presence is strongest in California, around San Francisco, the Mississippi River area west of Kansas City, and Florida, the book says. Other American areas probably visited or even settled by Chinese are said to be Mexico between the Pacific coast and Mexico City, the Caribbean coast of Venezuela, Colombia, and Guyana, and the Amazon Basin.

Menzies reports 50 ancient stone carvings of ships believed to be Chinese and 40 of horses -- extinct in America after 10,000 B.C. -- from the floodplains of he Mississippi. He quotes 16th century Spanish historian Pedro de Castaneda as saying he met people resembling Chinese living along the Arkansas River and his contemporary, Pedro Menendez, as saying he saw the wrecks of gilded Chinese vessels on the banks of the Missouri River.

Menendez's report no longer seems incredible in light of the discovery 20 years ago of a medieval Chinese-style junk buried under a sandbank in the Sacramento River off the northeast corner of San Francisco Bay, Menzies says. Fragments of wood taken from the ship have been carbon-dated to 1410 and identified as cut from Keteleria, a Chinese evergreen tree unknown in America.

The author offers long lists of plants, animals, and birds that were carried to the Americas, probably by foreign visitors, in the pre-Columbian era. The first European explorers found fields of rice -- a crop foreign to the Americas but common in Asia -- in Mexico and Brazil and Chinese root crops in the Amazon basin. The list goes on and on.

This book is likely to be the most fascinating read of 2003.

("1421, The Year China Discovered America," by Gavin Menzies, William Morrow, 576 pages, $27.95.)

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Interesting.
1 posted on 01/11/2003 2:01:33 PM PST by vannrox
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2 posted on 01/11/2003 2:02:20 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: blam
Looks like your cup of tea.
3 posted on 01/11/2003 2:09:33 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: vannrox
Perhaps Chinese explorers did reach the Americas. So what! They didn't tell anyone. No one has ever had to rediscover the Americas since Columbus's voyage in 1492.
4 posted on 01/11/2003 2:12:01 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: vannrox
I have also seen reports that the Irish came here first. Other sources (more reputable ones) claim the Viking were here ages before Columbus (which is true by the way since Viking Longboats landed long before Columbus' grandfather was even a twinkle in his parents eye).

However what all these articles forget is that before Columbus, before the Vikings, before the Irish (i will play along and treat include that 'theory' here), before the Chinese (another questionable 'theory' that i will also include just to be fair) .....before all these groups arrived the Native Americans had been here for centuries!

They had crossed eons ago when there was a landbridge (before tectonic shifts and rising waters sealed it off). Hence it was not the Vikings nor the Chinese nor the Spaniards nor the Irish (????) who got here first but the Native Americans.

However if you think of it people have claimed to have been 'the first to see' a valley in the Himalayas (when there was a tribe of Sherpas farming in it), or discover a river in africa (oblivious to the natives fishing in the river), or a lost temple complex in India (apparently ignorant of the fact that for the 'lost' temple to exist someone must have built the darn thing). Mountain ranges (that have villages at their base) have had explorers claim to the the 'first to see' them, probably because somehow the people who had farmed the volcanic slopes for generations apparently had never had the sudden epiphany that they were living next to a mountain!

Hence if that is possible then i guess the Native Americans who had been in N. America for centuries did not factor.

5 posted on 01/11/2003 2:17:42 PM PST by spetznaz (( I am tired of eating cereal ..........seriously))
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To: vannrox
Blue and white porcelain shards, broken Chinese porcelain, have been dug out of Oregon coast beaches for centuries. Early explorers were surprised to find Indians in the Oregon territories wearing very old pieces of Chinese porcelain shards as beads and personal adornment.

Even today blue and white porcelain shards are occasionally exposed on the beaches. This leads me to believe the Chinese, or the Japanese, were coming around the Pacific too, perhaps at the same time.

What I find interesting is the historical comparison this story presents us. The Chinese could have settled the western hemisphere but instead withdrew unto themselves. We, the United States, are on the brink of moving into the frontier of near-earth space but seem tied down with earth-bound tribulations.

So, who will eventually venture out and reap the metal riches to be found in near-earth asteroids? And they are indeed very rich, with platinum group metals, known as PGMs.

One medium-sized PGM asteroid is equal to the earth's gross economic product for one year!

If the Chinese had been bolder the United States would never have existed, and as for the future...?

6 posted on 01/11/2003 2:19:24 PM PST by goody2shooz
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To: goody2shooz
Phoenican artifacts wre found in Rio De Janiero. The point is that the pre-Viking visitors to America got here after long, grueling voyages, lost and nearly starved to death. And with no way of returning home. The all-male crews could not sustain themselves, and more or less camped out until they all died.
7 posted on 01/11/2003 2:32:32 PM PST by Grand Old Partisan
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To: goody2shooz
The Chinese could have settled the western hemisphere but instead withdrew unto themselves.

I know the true story of this but the details escape me. The Dynasty tha ruled China did send out huge junks to many parts of the world to gather information and bring back samples and impress the barbarians. Once those huge junks returned the Emperor decided that the Chinese had nothing to learn from the outside world and burned the fleet, banned contact with outsiders and closed itself from the outside world. China was centuroes ahead of any civilization in terms of technology then but the isolation doomed China by the time the Europeans caught up with the Chinese during the industrial revolution.

Did the Vikings visit America? Yes and we have their uncovered Canadian settlements as proof. Did Polynesians visit South America? Probably. Did any Europeans and West Africans? Maybe. There is the enigma of Cocaine and tabacco traces found among mummies. Greek charts used by Columbus did declare that there was a land mass in the Atlantic but they were vague as to what it was or where.

Visist may have occured but they may have had only superficial impacts on those of the old and new worlds. Even Columbus did not know it was the New World so it is doubtful other explorers or shipwrecked castaways knew what they found when they got to the Americas.

8 posted on 01/11/2003 2:35:21 PM PST by Destro
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To: Grand Old Partisan
I think so.
9 posted on 01/11/2003 2:35:52 PM PST by Destro
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To: vannrox
It's likely that the Chinese and many other people discovered America before Columbus. But then they lost it again. Columbus's discovery was followed up on.

It's also likely that Europeans discovered China much earlier than history usually credits, as earlier posts have suggested.
10 posted on 01/11/2003 2:36:11 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Paleo Conservative
No one has ever had to rediscover the Americas since Columbus's voyage in 1492.

This brings to mind an old Flip Wilson routine.

11 posted on 01/11/2003 2:36:27 PM PST by Howlin
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To: vannrox
Well is California even part of America any more?
12 posted on 01/11/2003 2:36:48 PM PST by weikel (Give it a few more years and they'll have discovered Mexico instead)
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To: vannrox
The Chinese will have to fight the Mexicans for California.
13 posted on 01/11/2003 2:39:31 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: vannrox
Yongle Emperor, Zhui Di, under the command of his eunuch admiral Zheng Hi.

I truly do love these history posts...but I have a question.

How could the Chinese claim to be civilized, when they allowed an obvious First Tenor with Falsetto tendencies, leave the theatre for a life aboard ship.

14 posted on 01/11/2003 2:51:06 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum
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To: Paleo Conservative
No one will believe it until they see a movie about it. Then they won't believe anything different!
15 posted on 01/11/2003 3:05:44 PM PST by BradyLS
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To: Paleo Conservative
Did the Chinese tell? It's entirely possible that Peri Reis' gift of complete charts of the Americas were the very same as those drawn by the Chinese.
16 posted on 01/11/2003 3:18:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: vannrox
Not exactly a new theory. But it may have been much earlier not a mere 71 years.
17 posted on 01/11/2003 3:23:49 PM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: Paleo Conservative
Now, for an even older story - that wasn't the first visit ethnic Chinese made to America. It is a simple observation that Sioux Indian sign language is a physical representation of Shan Dynasty characters (the really old ones found on sehlls and little pieces of slate).

The Sioux Indians lived at or near Cahokia up until the 1500s. They may have been there when DeSoto made his trip in 1541.

When (1410) the Chinese made the trip that is the subject of this thread they had not used the Shan characters for a couple of thousand years.

So, the mystery is - where did the Sioux get their character set? Did they just happen to invent the same characters as the Shan, or did the Shan settle in Cahokia some time circa 1400 BC?

18 posted on 01/11/2003 3:26:12 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: vannrox
If china did not have such a repressive regime I am betting we would see a lot more interesting history come from that area. Look at the ancient temples in Cambodia- absolutely stunning.
19 posted on 01/11/2003 3:32:25 PM PST by Mr. K
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To: muawiyah
"So, the mystery is - where did the Sioux get their character set? Did they just happen to invent the same characters as the Shan, or did the Shan settle in Cahokia some time circa 1400 BC?"

The Zuni Enigma

20 posted on 01/11/2003 3:38:48 PM PST by blam
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