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Five Decades of 'Dumbing Down'
Agape Press ^ | Jim & Jody Brown

Posted on 01/05/2003 4:59:58 PM PST by steplock

Study Reveals Five Decades of 'Dumbing Down' in American Education

By Jim Brown and Jody Brown
AgapePress - January 3, 2003

A new poll finds that American college seniors today are just slightly more knowledgeable than high-school graduates of half a century ago.

The Zogby study was commissioned by the National Association of Scholars (NAS), one of the nation's foremost advocates of reform in higher education.

The study reveals that current college seniors did better than 1950 high-school grads on questions relating to literature, music and, to some extent, science. On questions relating to geography, both averaged about the same. But today's college seniors did significantly worse on history questions.

Read Zogby Report: Today's College Students and Yesteryear's High School Grads[PDF]

NAS president Stephen Balch says overall, the general knowledge of 1950 high-school graduates is nearly identical to that of 2002 college seniors.

"We are seeing here the result of about 50 years of 'dumbing down,' in which students are less and less asked to acquire a broad-based factual knowledge and instead are told that the important thing is not their specific understandings about the world, but rather they can think," he explains.

Balch says it is apparent that many educators today are not teaching the basics, but instead are involved in all sorts of esoteric specializations.

"One of the phenomena we've seen, and in part it's been due to 'progressive' education -- what John Dewey and his colleagues launched back at the beginning of the twentieth century -- is a retreat from the idea that people should learn specific facts," Balch says. "And as far as it's been taken, [it has been] quite damaging. There's also ... been a deterioration in the quality of the people who teach [in] our schools."

Balch says when education is extended over a longer period, there is the risk of diluting its content and quality. And according to Balch, to some significant extent, that has happened.

In summarizing its findings, the Zogby study states: "By almost every measure of cultural knowledge in our survey, today's college seniors appear to rank far below the college graduates of mid-century." The survey included questions such as: "What composer wrote the Messiah?" and "In what country was the Battle of Waterloo fought?"

Note: Read the book that foretold it all:
The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America: A Chronological Paper Trail
Author : Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bad; dumb; dumbing; school; teacher

1 posted on 01/05/2003 4:59:58 PM PST by steplock
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To: steplock
People who know nothing will believe anything and that is very dangerous.
2 posted on 01/05/2003 5:15:36 PM PST by laconic
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To: steplock
But college kids today can boast of .... drugs.... sodomy ... er.. well at least they don't wear goofy... oh they do.
3 posted on 01/05/2003 5:17:27 PM PST by evolved_rage
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To: steplock
Why is Agape Press so slow on the story? The Zogby survey by the National Association of Scholars was published two weeks ago. It also appeared on FreeRepublic.

My UPI article, "Ignorance in America," picked up that point and added fifty more years, going back to McGuffey's Reader at the turn of the century. That was a week ago, and also up on FR.

So, these people are right in their article, but they are also way behind the curve.

Congressman Billybob

Click for latest column on UPI, "Incision Decision in the Senate" (Now up on UPI wire, and FR.)

As the politician formerly known as Al Gore has said, Buy my book, "to Restore Trust in America"

4 posted on 01/05/2003 5:19:38 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: steplock
I don't think that this study reflects that much knowledge if it is just the contents of the .pdf file. A test comparing test scores on actual curricula on tests with the same questions (like math problems, reading passages, etc.) would support the hypothesis better.

Therefore, I don't really endorse this study, though I do think that a better education could be had with a different setup than the one right now.
5 posted on 01/05/2003 5:21:35 PM PST by anobjectivist
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To: steplock
Perhaps the most disturbing aspect is the vast ignorance of history, civilization and government. Such subjects used to be required, based on the idea that you had to be an informed citizen to participate in society.

6 posted on 01/05/2003 5:28:31 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: laconic
"People who know nothing will believe anything and that is very dangerous."

That is the democrat party constituency.

Indeed!
7 posted on 01/05/2003 5:40:11 PM PST by lawdude
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To: DeFault User
Perhaps the most disturbing aspect is the vast ignorance of history, civilization and government. Such subjects used to be required, based on the idea that you had to be an informed citizen to participate in society.

Right. Two causes. One is emphasis in schools on group projects rather than memorization plus individual achievement. The other cause should be obvious if I point out one of the few wrong answers my 10 year old boy just gave when I went over some of the questions with him. On the question about who first flew nonstop across the Atlantic, his answer was Amelia Earhart. When I explained the real story, he said that then surely Earhart was the first across the Pacific.

8 posted on 01/05/2003 5:54:17 PM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Steve Eisenberg
An informed citizenry is a threat to the power of our cultural elite, who would not last long if the public knew the extent to which they were being deceived.
9 posted on 01/05/2003 6:11:38 PM PST by Loyalist
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To: Loyalist
Caught a blurb on commie news net work (we don't get Fox) about a new study saying class size didn't matter. Looked on the web site and didn't find it there. Did any one else catch it?
10 posted on 01/05/2003 8:18:07 PM PST by GailA
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To: steplock
As long time FReepers know I like to run on and on about history. I could tell the present generation anything, that we were all descended from the Yoruba, that Socrates was an Egyptian...anything.

The most astonishing thing I find, that I try to weave into conversations with the young, is to mention Martin Luther. Nearly every one of them, thinks I am just calling "the Rev Dr" by his first and middle name, maybe to put him down, maybe because I am a racist.

You can get the blankest look even from Lutherans sometimes, if you ask who it was that made part of Germany Protestant, or who founded the Lutheran church. That last one really gets me.

Who is buried in Grant's tomb?

11 posted on 01/05/2003 8:25:36 PM PST by crystalk
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To: GailA
I KNEW my hearing wasn't faulty. The Evidence on Class Size Eric A. Hanushek University of Rochester
12 posted on 01/05/2003 8:25:59 PM PST by GailA
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To: steplock
bump
13 posted on 01/05/2003 8:58:31 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: steplock
Fifty years ago even graduating highschool was considered an achievement and graduating college was a very big deal indeed. Nowadays it's more difficult to drop out of highschool than to coast through to graduating, and colleges have been created and expanded to accept almost any applicant. This is one big reason for the dilution of scores.

But when you compare college scores of 50 years ago with today's scores you will probably be using the courses taught 50 years ago and hoping to see if they're still taught; so you're comparing the scores of English and Philosophy majors mostly. Fifty years ago there was hardly any computer science being taught, very little microbiology or astrophysics or a bunch of other majors that are now very active in modern colleges but virtually unheard of fifty years ago.

14 posted on 01/05/2003 9:33:32 PM PST by DonQ
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To: crystalk
"...Who is buried in Grant's tomb? ..."

President Grant AND his wife..........FRegards

15 posted on 01/05/2003 9:54:53 PM PST by gonzo
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To: steplock
btt
16 posted on 01/06/2003 3:57:16 AM PST by Cacique
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To: GailA
12- "small classes (13-17 students) or large classes (21-25 students with or without aides)."

when I went to high school (class of 62), 25-30 students was small, 40+ was large and grades meant something. Even our validictorian (class of 368), did not get a 4.0.
17 posted on 01/06/2003 4:48:33 AM PST by XBob
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To: DonQ
well, our highschool had algebra 2, calculus2, biology2, chemistry2, physics2, spanish 3 and latin 3, trig, solid, and analyt, and american history 2.
18 posted on 01/06/2003 4:53:42 AM PST by XBob
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To: DonQ
and we had NO CALCULATORS and weren't allowed to use our slide rules, except in the class where they taught them.
19 posted on 01/06/2003 4:55:15 AM PST by XBob
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To: XBob
Class of 1968. Good basic education. In the 70s was when it began to go to hell.

Now Science=Recycling, History=Bad Europeans and Geography=Diversity. The commies run public education.

20 posted on 01/06/2003 5:38:31 AM PST by johnny7
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