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12/26/2002 5:56:36 PM PST by
therut
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To: therut
vegans sux0r
2 posted on
12/26/2002 6:00:06 PM PST by
Maedhros
To: therut
I must have just missed it
To: therut
I saw that, too. I was busy fixing dinner for Free State One and Two so I wasn't hanging on every word, but he was very, very evasive and it was a very Clintonian moment. There was obvious obfuscation.
To: therut
Wonder who his so called un-married spouse is???Ingrid Newkirk.
He's Neal Barnard.
They're quite a couple. They are involved in numerous animal rights/anti-animal research/vegetarian organizations.
To: therut
There's supposed to be some statistical basis to the statement that vegetarians don't live quite as long as those of us who follow our evolutionary pattern of eating meat and drinking milk.
This is proper, IMHO.
6 posted on
12/26/2002 6:15:28 PM PST by
Marauder
To: therut
And here is the rub. They lie about what their goal is when they sue the fast food companies. They say it is about health but it isn't. You look, and you see the rabid animal-rights groups behind them.
But then you apply that same logic, and you wonder if the radical animal rights groups are telling the truth about what their goal is. They say it is out of compassion for animals, but then they lie about why they file suits so what is not to say they are lying about what their real agenda is?
Because if you look deep enough, you will find the same old socialist/collectivist agenda.
To: therut
Didn't see it but will watch the rerun.
To: therut
He denied he had a spouse but not that he filed tax return with "someone" as a spouse or that they are the president of PETA.If I was unmarried and was filing joint tax returns with someone as married, I doubt that I would admit it on national TV. Someone from the IRS might just be watching.
14 posted on
12/26/2002 7:00:35 PM PST by
templar
To: therut
I didn't see it, but it is great to see all of those liberal guests on FNC and the look of shock on their faces when they realize that someone is actually questioning them on their ranting. They are so used to being given a pass on what they say.
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To: therut
The whole discussion was civil and Cal had him in his heels from the get-go. I am not a real Cal Thomas fan, but this was a refreshing change from O'Reilly's teen sex fantasies. I thoroughly enjoyed the way Cal worked him over. The best parts were the question about the doctor's wife, and the questions about where the doctor's organization got the majority of it's funding - PETA.
To: therut
Saw the show.....still laughing at the way Cal cut him off at the end when he was trying to give out his web address.....to O'Reilly's millions of viewers.
28 posted on
12/26/2002 7:57:33 PM PST by
mickie
To: therut
This was the same physician that was on the Washington Journal this a.m. talking about suing the fast food industries and wanting to take meat,milk and cheese out of the school lunch programs........
Let him have his way and stop the school lunch program. We can then blame PETA and not the Republicans for a change.
31 posted on
12/26/2002 8:10:05 PM PST by
YOMO
To: therut
read later
To: therut
I need to go eat some meat.
33 posted on
12/26/2002 8:28:46 PM PST by
tiki
To: therut
Sounds like a job for the IRS...
Well Cal brought out that his spouse who he filed his tax returns with was the president of PETA. He denied he had a spouse but not that he filed tax return with "someone" as a spouse or that they are the president of PETA. He got kinda shook up
38 posted on
12/26/2002 8:58:12 PM PST by
GOPJ
To: therut
Ingrid Newkirk
39 posted on
12/26/2002 9:01:50 PM PST by
kcvl
To: therut
Quotes
---"Our nonviolent tactics are not as effective. We ask nicely for years and get nothing. Someone makes a threat, and it works."
- Ingrid Newkirk, President and Co-Founder of PETA
---PeTA co-founder Ingrid Newkirk once said even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, "we'd be against it."
---"Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughter houses."
-Ingrid Newkirk, President, PeTA, The Washington Post, November 13, 1983.
---"Humans have grown like a cancer. We're the biggest blight on the face of the earth." (Reader's Digest, June, 1990)
---"I wish we all would get up and go into the labs and take the animals out or burn them down."
-Ingrid Newkirk, President, PeTA, National Animal Rights Convention '97, June 27, 1997
---Were reduced sometimes to doing stupid things to make serious points. Society doesnt have the attention span it used to and we just have to put the animals plight in front of the public, come hell or high water, Ingrid Newkirk, President, PeTA, tells ABC NEWS.
---"Arson, property destruction, burglary and theft are 'acceptable crimes' when used for the animal cause."
-Alex Pacheco, Director, PeTA
---"When it comes to feelings, a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy."
---"We feel that animals have the same rights as retarded children."
-Alex Pacheco, Director, PeTA, New York Times, January 14, 1989.
---"To those people who say, `My father is alive because of animal experimentation,' I say `Yeah, well, good for you. This dog died so your father could live.' Sorry, but I am just not behind that kind of trade off."
-- Bill Maher, PeTA celebrity spokesman
---"If the death of one rat cured all diseases, it wouldn't make any difference to me."
-- Chris De Rose, Director, Last Chance for Animals
---"Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation."
-- Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA
---"The bottom line is that people don't have the right to manipulate or to breed dogs and cats ... If people want toys, they should buy inanimate objects. If they want companionship, they should seek it with their own kind,"
-- Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA
46 posted on
12/26/2002 9:29:54 PM PST by
kcvl
To: therut
Even painless research is fascism, supremacist, because the act of confinement is traumatizing in itself.
-- Ingrid Newkirk, Washingtonian, Aug. 1986
You don't have to own squirrels and starlings to get enjoyment from them ... One day, we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals. [Dogs] would pursue their natural lives in the wild ... they would have full lives, not wasting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet them and then sit there and watch TV.
-- Ingrid Newkirk, Chicago Daily Herald, March 1, 1990.
47 posted on
12/26/2002 9:35:17 PM PST by
kcvl
To: therut
"We feel that animals have the same rights as a retarded human child."
New York Times, January 14, 1989 by Alex Pacheco
50 posted on
12/26/2002 9:38:23 PM PST by
kcvl
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