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Simon Disinvited From GOP Fund-Raiser With Cheney's Gay Daughter
The Mercury News ^ | Sept. 3, 2002 | AP

Posted on 09/04/2002 9:41:53 AM PDT by jstone78

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:29:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Bill Simon was booted Tuesday from a planned fund-raiser with Dick Cheney's gay daughter after he repudiated his statements to a gay Republican group and reneged on his promise to declare a Gay Pride Day.

The Republican Unity Coalition, a gay-straight Republican group that formed during President Bush's candidacy, said the GOP gubernatorial nominee would not be welcome at its fund-raiser Thursday in Los Angeles.


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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; gop; homos; pillowbiters; simon; sodomy; values
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Sounds like he lost the sodomite vote.

Simon has been saying different things to different audiences. He cannot be trusted.

Say what you will about Gray Davis, but you know exactly where he stands on perverts' rights.

1 posted on 09/04/2002 9:41:53 AM PDT by jstone78
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To: jstone78
Bill Simon was booted Tuesday from a planned fund-raiser with Dick Cheney's gay daughter after he repudiated his statements to a gay Republican group and reneged on his promise to declare a Gay Pride Day.

LOL!
A man with principle.
Good.


2 posted on 09/04/2002 9:44:07 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: jstone78
Bill Simon was booted Tuesday from a planned fund-raiser with Dick Cheney's gay daughter after he repudiated his statements to a gay Republican group and reneged on his promise to declare a Gay Pride Day.

For all the people attacking Simon for allegedly supporting the gay agenda, you would think this would be a good thing.

If you're GOP, you can't win!

3 posted on 09/04/2002 9:48:30 AM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: jstone78
Simon comes out of this looking bad, no matter which side he chooses. The media is giving the "Simon flip-flop" huge coverage.
4 posted on 09/04/2002 9:49:24 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: jstone78
Seems like Simon tells everyone what they want to hear. He sounds like a perfect politician to me.
5 posted on 09/04/2002 9:51:14 AM PDT by sakic
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To: jstone78
Christians are a "small fringe group" while gays are not? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Let me stop laughing to notice that the author of this story doesn't seem to notice how ridiculous that is.

I just love those "big tent" republicans who defiine inclusiveness as tossing out Christians and orthodox Jews. Truth be told, they'd never EVER win an election without us. They want to use us and then force us to shut up. How freedom loving. How American.

6 posted on 09/04/2002 9:53:13 AM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: jstone78
Simon has been saying different things to different audiences. He cannot be trusted.

No, he hasn't.

7 posted on 09/04/2002 9:54:10 AM PDT by Coop
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To: jstone78
"...the GOP gubernatorial nominee would not be welcome at its fund-raiser Thursday..."

Um, what happened to "tolerance" and "embracing diversity"?
Should they not be more "tolerant" of, and embrace a view that it "diverse" from thiers?
Oh, feel the love...on second thought, never mind...

8 posted on 09/04/2002 10:01:56 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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Christians are a "small fringe group" while gays are not? HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Why the horselaugh? There are probably more people living a gay lifestyle than a Christian one.

9 posted on 09/04/2002 10:05:50 AM PDT by Grut
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To: jstone78
The Republican Unity Coalition, a gay-straight Republican group that formed during President Bush's candidacy, said the GOP gubernatorial nominee would not be welcome at its fund-raiser Thursday in Los Angeles.

Why would Simon want to be at an underground democrat fundraiser anyway. SADs tend to be one issue voters, everything is about sex. They do not fit into a Republican party that is pro-family, pro-conservatism, pro-capitalism. All open SADs are democrats.

Simon ran in the GOP primary as a ``conservative Republican,'' but must gain support from moderates and independents to unseat Democratic Gov. Gray Davis in November. As the controversy over the Log Cabin Republicans questionnaire illustrates, navigating between the party's moderate and conservative wings can be a delicate business.

NO!NO!NO! Stay conservative and the moderates will come to you. If you go moderate you lose the conservatives and the left moderates will vote democrat anyway. Did Reagan become moderate to win? NO he stayed conservative and crushed the enemy

``It is hugely disappointing to us to see Bill Simon bow under the pressure of a small fringe group who evidently yanked his chain hard the first time he reached out to us and to all voters in the middle, where elections are won,'' the coalition said in a statement.

Here we have a member of a very vocal 1-3% claiming that the 50+% who disapprove of SAD behavior are a minority. Of course the same person claims that elections are won in the middle. For a republican, elections are always lost in the middle. We win by staying true to our beliefs.

God Save America (Please)

10 posted on 09/04/2002 10:13:50 AM PDT by John O
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Seems like Simon tells everyone what they want to hear. He sounds like a perfect politician to me.

This proves my previous post. sakic, who is at the minimun a SAD enabler/cheerleader, doesn't like Simon because Simon is staying true to his belief that SAD is wrong behavior.

GSA(P)

11 posted on 09/04/2002 10:15:31 AM PDT by John O
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Simon comes out of this looking bad, no matter which side he chooses. The media is giving the "Simon flip-flop" huge coverage.

Yep, that's the real problem...is he un-principled? wishy-washy? not smart enough to be paying sufficient attention to this stuff?

Whatever actually happened here, it seems certain to reflect badly on him...sigh!

Looks like a dumb mistake on his part, unless the facts as reported are unreliable (always a distinct possibility...awaiting further developments...)

12 posted on 09/04/2002 10:26:17 AM PDT by 88keys
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To: RAT Patrol
The problem is the moderates have the money and the conservatives have the grassroots volunteer base. Both sides have to have consensus before victory can be made.
The cultural left and right want to shut up the other side, but if one side gets alienated the big broad Republican Party gets crumbled because both the Democrats and Republicans are parties based on colliations.

I do wish for a multi party democracy so we can have each interest represented. I would like to have a Christian Republican party and a Progressive Conservative party in the United States.
13 posted on 09/04/2002 10:32:20 AM PDT by Munson
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To: 88keys
Oops...to be clear, the "mistake" I refer to is not his so-called retraction of his so-called position on the gay issue, but rather allowing himself to be either misunderstood or misrepresented in the first place, thus setting himself up for the gleeful media coverage of his "flip-flop"...
14 posted on 09/04/2002 10:32:30 AM PDT by 88keys
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To: jstone78
Exactly. He was never going to get the gay vote in the first place. Repudiating his statement hasn't won over the extreme gay rights proponents and it hasn't made a convert out of me back to Simon. That being said its interesting liberals can't tolerate any one who disagrees with them about homosexuality. Even the slightest belief in traditional values is enough to get you disinvited altogether from the Left's events. Remind me again why Republicans need friends like that like they need enemies.
15 posted on 09/04/2002 10:37:47 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Coop
Simon has been saying different things to different audiences.

No, he hasn't.


So what did Simon mean when, as the article states, In response to one question on the Log Cabin Republicans survey, Simon wrote, ``Yes, in June 2003 I will sign a proclamation declaring Gay Pride Day.''
16 posted on 09/04/2002 10:40:03 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: 88keys
Exactly. Either Simon let someone deliberately sabotage his campaign, in which case he hoped to give a wink and a nod to the Left but it was clumsily executed; or he genuinely was embarrassed by someone who filled out a questionnaire for him inconsistent with his values and principles. Either of which is a picture of man who doesn't know what his campaign is doing and not sure of what he stands for. Alas, its not a pretty sight and Davis who is committed to an anti-family agenda is out there crowing he's not the hypocrite and he's right. Had Simon run a tighter ship he would neither have ended up welshing on his new pledges to gays or turning off his own base by appearing to abandon his pro-family views at first opportunity. All in all its exactly the sort of lose-lose situation even a novice candidate would rather avoid.
17 posted on 09/04/2002 10:45:12 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: sakic
Except he doesn't look like the perfect politician. Gray Davis would never in a million years pull a stupid stunt like that. His own base would roast him alive and he knows it.
18 posted on 09/04/2002 10:47:07 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Stone Mountain
If it wasn't Simon, who answered the questionnaire for him? Even the Cabin Log Republican RINOs are at a loss for an answer.
19 posted on 09/04/2002 10:48:28 AM PDT by goldstategop
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There are probably more people living a gay lifestyle than a Christian one.
No there's not. The major media just wants you to believe that.
20 posted on 09/04/2002 10:55:40 AM PDT by stevio
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