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London Gun Crime Up 90%
SkyNews ^ | 19 December 2001 | staff

Posted on 12/20/2001 12:06:39 PM PST by 45Auto

Revenge killings among drug gangs have fuelled an explosion in gun murders in Britain. According to latest figures the number of gun murders in London has leapt by 90% this year.

In April to November 2001 there were 30, compared to 16 in the same period last year. This year 16 of the murders were 'black on black' killings compared to nine last year, an increase of 77%.

All-night garages

There were more shootings in the trendy West End rather than in boroughs like Lambeth, Hackney and Brent.

At least two people a day are now robbed at gunpoint in London.

Armed robbers are also increasingly targeting all-night garages, off licences and shops rather than banks and cash in transit.

Jamaica drug route

Commander Alan Brown of Operation Trident said there were "clear links" in many gun murders to Jamaica, the major drug route into this country. But he added: "If we take someone out there is an immediate struggle to take over the drug dealing of that particular gang." Detectives estimate as much as four tonnes of cocaine is making its way into London through drug mules - mostly women - travelling from Jamaica on commercial flights each year.


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To: Waco
what does "all night garage" mean

Gas station. Excuse me, petrol station.

41 posted on 12/20/2001 3:15:06 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: 45Auto
"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

But you'll never hear about this from the American Big Lie Industry
42 posted on 12/20/2001 3:19:12 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: Lazamataz
My brother moved to London a week ago. His partner was mugged there 5 months ago.
43 posted on 12/20/2001 3:22:07 PM PST by AppyPappy
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To: 45Auto
"England is finished."

They have been a sad sack of a country for over 30 years. Socialism will do that to ya.

44 posted on 12/20/2001 4:22:16 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Paulus Invictus
You're right! It was gubs. I had forgotton that one, thanks for bringing it back to mind. Hilarious.

Even funnier was an incident that really happened in San Francisco. A would-be robber stood in line at a bank with a hold-up note he had written on a deposit slip. He got tired of waiting in line, so he went down the street to another bank and handed the note to a teller. She apparently sized him up as a doofus because she told him she couldn't honor his note since it was written on a deposit slip from the other bank. She recommended he take it back to the 1st bank, which he did. After he left her bank she called the police who were there to greet him at the 1st bank as he handed his note to the teller. Too funny.

I can't personally vouch for the veracity of this story, but it was told as a true story in a nationally circulated magazine.

45 posted on 12/20/2001 6:33:40 PM PST by epow
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To: 45Auto, tonycavanagh, Da_Shrimp, di_canio_volley, Kate22, hermoine_granger
Auto: England is finished.

Crap and a half. We are still less likely to get our heads blown off walking round our green and pleasant land. And what business is it of yours anyway?
46 posted on 12/21/2001 12:18:57 AM PST by jjbrouwer
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To: 45Auto, peabers
In April to November 2001 there were 30, compared to 16 in the same period last year.

Is that all?
47 posted on 12/21/2001 12:21:56 AM PST by jjbrouwer
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To: SunStar
They banned handguns in Australia, and only 35% were turned in by the citizens. They can't arrest everyone.

Bullsh*t! Hand guns have not been banned in Australia. Only semi-automatic rifle and shotguns, and assualt weapons, which have always been restricted. Graziers and farmers who require semi-automatic weapons for controlling feral animals are still allowed to own them.

In order to own a hand gun or long arm in Australia, you must meet the following criteria:

1.) For hand guns - you must be a member of a gun club, and regularly shoot there.

2.) For long arms - you must have a letter of permission from a landowner to hunt on his/her property. Or, be a member of a sport shooting association, and regularly compete.

3.) For all weapons, you must keep them properly locked away.

4.) You must have a clean police record.

48 posted on 12/21/2001 12:38:01 AM PST by peabers
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To: Pissed Off Janitor
The difference between me and you is that I have an understanding of both countries. You know next to nothing about Britain and use articles like this to confirm your prejudices. It would not surprise me to learn that you had never even visited Europe.

Our legal system is infinitely better than yours. Or do you think OJ Simpson and the Benet Ramsays (who still have not been indicted) are innocent?

And it really is a bore to have to keep explaining my position. I have said time and time again that I would always carry a gun in a US state where I was allowed to. I just don't think we need them in Britain.

It has nothing to do with socialism either. The Conservative Party who I support have no wish to adopt this policy.
50 posted on 12/21/2001 1:49:14 AM PST by jjbrouwer
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To: 45Auto
They took the guns except for criminals and some government. Gives them freedom to kill at will...
51 posted on 12/21/2001 1:50:47 AM PST by mbb bill
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To: jjbrouwer; Mad Ivan;
I've come to realize that not only can I not receive reliable news via standard media about home, I can't get the truth about anywhere else either, so I've decided to disregard it altogether. Perhaps one of you might be able to tell me if this is true or not?

Hey, I tried to flag Tony Cavanaugh on this, too. I previewed it three times and his name dropped off each time. Why is that? Is he temporarily banned or something? Maybe I need more coffee, that's usually the issue with 50% of these things...

52 posted on 12/21/2001 1:52:24 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: Yakboy, tonycavanagh
They can never ban Cavanagh, even if he does think many Americans have about one tooth between them, wear mullet hairstyles and live in the same trailer park. You might try spelling his name right though...
53 posted on 12/21/2001 1:55:30 AM PST by jjbrouwer
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To: 45Auto
drug mules - mostly women - travelling from Jamaica on commercial flights each year.

A little "profiling" going on here??

55 posted on 12/21/2001 2:10:48 AM PST by LinnieBeth
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To: Pissed Off Janitor
Do you have a passport? (you will be in a minority if you have one). If so, how often have you left the USA? You didn't respond to that point before so my guess is...never.
56 posted on 12/21/2001 2:11:10 AM PST by jjbrouwer
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To: Pissed Off Janitor
I love threads like this it means that we can really have a lets hate each other and slag each other off.

Maybe one day we can have a freeper convention and then us rightwing Brits and you right wing yanks can do what we always want to do and kick thee kinds out of each other.

.But I would not be surprised if in real life most of you are skinny little internet nerds or over blown cream puffs,

Merry Christmas.

Cheers Tony

57 posted on 12/21/2001 2:15:33 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: 45Auto
This is not possible! Guns are ILLEGAL in Britan!
58 posted on 12/21/2001 2:17:44 AM PST by SubMareener
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To: jjbrouwer
jjbrouwer, they have to have a go at us, its the only way they can make them self’s feel good about them self’s the little spawny saddos.

Snigger.

LOL This was my last day on FR before the Holidays and I was going to keep it low key and just wish people Merry Christmas an seasons of good will.

Trust the Yanks to start a flame war again.

Is there nothing they don’t have a self righteous opinion about.

Ah well lets go have ourselves a war.

Cheers Tony

59 posted on 12/21/2001 2:20:09 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: SubMareener
re : This is not possible! Guns are ILLEGAL in Britan!.

LOL did you think that all up my your self, how ning original.

Tony

60 posted on 12/21/2001 2:21:25 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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