Posted on 11/24/2001 10:54:08 AM PST by AgThorn
I am pro-choice. I am not one person, but many. Here is what I believe:
The fetus is not a human, just a mass of tissue Click
Abortion is safer than childbirth. Click
Every child should be a wanted child. Click
The number of abortions is relatively small. Click
Nobody has the right to impose their morals on me. Click
A woman should be able to control her own body. Click
Abortion must be kept legal, especially for all the rape and incest pregnancies. Click
If abortion is outlawed women will be forced to go to back-alley abortion clinics. Click
Aborting unwanted children reduces the number of abused children. Click
We need to remember that we are overpopulating the planet. Click
Planned Parenthood is a group that focuses on contraception. Click
Perhaps the most eloquent words on the topic. Those not persuaded by Judge Bork's words have neither mind nor soul.
On that you are precisely wrong IMO. On this mortal coil, it is left to man to decide what is true, and what isn't, or what is problematical. Man may be wrong, but it is his given gift to make wrong judgments. If he is wrong, and there is a higher power, then and only then will it all be sorted out. In the meantime, you will have to argue the factual details in a nation of free conscience. Playing some absolutist trump card is doomed to failure in the public square. Of that much I am fairly confident.
"Every child should be a wanted child."
There you go again referring to the fetus as though it is a "child", and then claiming the right to murder it. Is it a child or just tissue mass? Also, does this mean that if someone is ever "unwanted" that they can be murdered?
"The number of abortions is relatively small."
Is this supposed to be a justification for abortion itself? What difference does the number of abortions make if abortion is so wonderfull? Heck, if abortion was as great a thing as the pro-choice folks think, it seems we'd all want more of them.
"Nobody has the right to impose their morals on me."
Your morals END at your DNA line, just like mine. Remember, freedom to do whatever YOU want is not freedom at all. Freedom revolves around a respect for life which includes the notion that mankind is not able to decide or control anything about when life begins or ends.
No. You still trying to play that ineffectual trump card. It won't work in the public square on this issue. I make certain a priori assumptions, but not on this matter really, and a decided majority don't either. Your argumentative strategy is simply doomed to failure. It will persuade none that are not already a part of the choir.
Is right and wrong decided by a "majority"? Does this mean that if a "majority" decided that the sky was down and the ground was up that it would be so? This nation was founded upon the notion that we have certain inalienable rights which were granted by our "creator", not by John Hancock, or Betsy Ross. Upon what basis would you convince me to free you if I had control over you?
Our shared cultural values, assuming we had them, to wit, that we had made the same a priori assumptions, whether draped per se with theology or not.
You seem to be slipping back into the real issue, to wit, when does life begin? On that, you will only win with leap of faith arguments, not with objectivity. That goes for the other side as well. That is why this issue will never be ultimately resolved.
You have prescribed a lifetime of slavery for yourself and your offspring. Your reasons would never instill a righteous fear into the hearts of anyone wishing to control and dominate you. The only way you could free yourself would be through the use of brute force. This would be a world of survival of the fittest, where the strong control the weak. It would be a world where man himself decides what is and what isn't right, or what is and what isn't freedom.
Those brave souls who founded this nation didn't believe we live in such a world. My freedom and yours stem from what they believed in. Had they believed as you currently do, there would not have been an America to live in.
One does not know the Lord of heaven and earth because one does not 'choose' to know him. He awaits the 'knock at the door'. True freedom(relationship, not religion) awaits one's final answer/choice.
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