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To: Uncle Sham
The answer to winning the abortion debate does not center around "when life starts"

On that you are precisely wrong IMO. On this mortal coil, it is left to man to decide what is true, and what isn't, or what is problematical. Man may be wrong, but it is his given gift to make wrong judgments. If he is wrong, and there is a higher power, then and only then will it all be sorted out. In the meantime, you will have to argue the factual details in a nation of free conscience. Playing some absolutist trump card is doomed to failure in the public square. Of that much I am fairly confident.

25 posted on 11/24/2001 2:41:33 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Where does the "right to be free" come from? If it comes from mankind, then there is no such right. If the right to be free comes from God (mine or yours), what good is it if man controls the issue of life and death? If someone else can decide whether you live or die or even whether you get the chance to be born, YOU certainly are not "free". All I'm saying here is that the issue of when life begins is not for mankind to decide, or control. If man is in control of life and death, how is it that a perfectly normal, physically fit married couple could go years attempting to have a baby without success? There must be someone else making these decisions don't you think?
27 posted on 11/24/2001 2:53:45 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Torie
Torie, one more thing. Do you think that there is such a thing as a "father"?
29 posted on 11/24/2001 3:08:16 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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