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Should I start smoking a pipe?
Enquiring Mind | 11/14/2001 | MississippiMan

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:06:30 PM PST by MississippiMan

I haven't had a cigarette since January 23rd. Unfortunately, I still crave cigarettes constantly. Some of that is due to the fact that I've remained addicted to nicotene gum or patches or inhalers or whatever my nicotene du jour is. Another part of it is that a small majority of the time, smoking was actually a very pleasurable thing. Only a few cigarettes a day really felt good; the others were sheer, utter habit.

Contrary to all the assurances, I don't feel wondrously better. My breathing has not improved much at all. My sense of taste is the one big difference and that difference is indeed dramatic.

When all is said and done, however, the only factor that keeps me from starting back at this point is the smell. I had no idea I stank like that for 20+ years. Good grief! How rank! It's not so much the smell of the smoke itself, but the smell it leaves on you and anything it touches in an enclosed area.

With that in mind, I've smelled some WONDERFUL smelling pipe tobacco over the years and am wondering if maybe I oughta take up a pipe smoking session maybe once per night to take care of my craving. Any pipe smokers out there? What are those tobaccos that smell so wonderful?

Thanks...

MM


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To: latrans
>>>>>>>>>>Anybody dumb enough to smoke better get their will in order.<<<<<<<

Nice sensitive advice for a guy who is sincerely looking for good advice. Maybe you could add what kind of casket he should order to your comments.

41 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:30 PM PST by irish guard
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To: MississippiMan
Quit smoking for 7 months, I didn't feel better either, but then I didn't feel 'worse' in the first place.

My husband smokes nothing but pipe, he likes Amphora regular, but I am not sure you can get it in the US.

42 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:31 PM PST by Great Dane
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To: Tinman
Westfield. You can e-mail me at through www.enterstageright.com, where I've got a weekly column. You moved out of Massachusetts some time ago, didn't you?
43 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:31 PM PST by MoralSense
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To: MississippiMan
I would avoid lead pipe. Galvanized might have noxious vapors and PVC, HDPE, and vinyl are definitely out.

If you stick to rigid copper it might be ok.

44 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:32 PM PST by bert
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To: irish guard
Congratulations, you are over half way there! (To beeting the addiction).
I Think I managed to push it aside last February. I had a week that was so incredibly busy I wouldn't have time to smoke, so I chose to start the patches then. when the week was over I forgot to use a patch one morning, since I survived the day without smoking I never wore a patch again.
I still miss cigarettes with beer, after eating, and when I get realy frustrated at work, but when I am around cigarette smoke my throat gets tight and I know I will never go back.
Good luck!
45 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:43 PM PST by Outlaw76
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To: MississippiMan
I don't think you should. My ancestors smoked the "peace pipe" and where did it get them?
46 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:44 PM PST by fish hawk
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To: latrans
Anybody dumb enough to smoke better get their will in order.

Guess you're right, my husband and I are smokers, and at 67 & 70, we really should get our will in order.
By the way, we are both healthy.

47 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:44 PM PST by Great Dane
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To: MississippiMan
Homeboy!!!

If you can maintain the discipline...you should stay off all tobacco products. None are terribly good for you but some are historically less harmful than others.

I quit ciggies at age 30 after 14 years of a pack a day. I unfortunately took up cigars at a poker game one night at age 36....now 8 years later...I smoke a couple of double coronas a day (La Gloria Cubanas as a rule). I of course don't inhale them but I have seen many ciggie smokers inhale cigars because just puffing on them doesn't do the trick. I admit that I love a good cigar...having one right now actually but when I'm busy or traveling I don't smoke. I can go all day without craving yet I love them when I can relax at my desk or at home. My only consolation is that there are a lot of very old cigar smokers. But they also killed US Grant and Mark Twain among quite a few other folks of reknown. It's a devil's bargain to be sure. Some folks can only smoke a cigar a week....If I had that discipline then I would just abstain.

The key to tobacco use other than abstaining is only to smoke at certain times and not on impulse which is impossible when addicted to ciggies.

Just my 2 cents...

48 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:44 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: MississippiMan
Nah, don't start smoking again. Pipe smoke smells better than it takes. If you get the craving really bad simply have a friend blow smoke in your face and you inhale it. The inhaled smoke will help the craving and the humiliation will stop future cravings. :)
49 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:45 PM PST by 68 grunt
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To: MississippiMan
I have smoked a pipe since 1964. I recall that the first Surgeon General's report showed that pipe smokers lived, on average, a year longer than non-smokers. This probably has more to do with the general temperment of pipe smokers than any health benefits of pipe smoking. I never did smoke cigarettes and do not inhale the pipe smoke, FWIW.
50 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:50 PM PST by Nakota
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To: MississippiMan
Go to a hypnotist. I did and I quit for 4 years with no withdrawl.

Unfortunately, a fishing partner got me started on cigars and I started inhaling them eventually. So I went back to cigarettes.

When I was off smoking, I ballooned to 200 lbs. Pick your poison junior!

51 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:52 PM PST by johnny7
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To: FormerLib
I'm glad you realize that.
52 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:53 PM PST by Warren
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To: Warren
Must be that "alcapulco gold" acting up.
53 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:11 PM PST by sola gracia
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To: MississippiMan
Should I start smoking a pipe?

No! It will get easier, but it will take time.

I quit cold turkey, no patches no nothing, many years ago, it took time and I was irritable, but it was one of the best things I ever did.

Keep fighting, it's worth it.

54 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:32 PM PST by RJL
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To: MississippiMan
I started on a pipe when I was trying to stop snuff (Copenhagen/Skoal). Problem is, it kept me addicted to nicotine, and I eventually went back to the stuff. It took me quite a while to break the habit from that crap, and I had to do it cold turkey. Try hypnosis -- it helped me a lot!
55 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:33 PM PST by WindMinstrel
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To: wardaddy
I thought it was the liquor that got that war criminal Grant! lol Are ye a War Hawk, too?
56 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:33 PM PST by rebelyell
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To: MississippiMan
I suspect you will receive many good and helpful suggestions, pro and con to smoke, or not to smoke.

I can speak from the experience of smoking a pipe for 15 years after smoking cigarettes for the thirty years prior to my pipe experience.

For me I enjoyed a pipe after my teeth got over being sore from gripping the pipe stem.

It was cheaper but nastier due to the juices that came from the tobacco and saliva mixture.
I used pipes with a throw away filter which helps if you do not allow filter to become saturated.
The pipes I used were fairly inexpensive, and I used the less costly pipes because I found no advantage in paying more for something that had no better taste nor burned any cooler.
I did no use any fancy mixture since after setting the tobacco on fire it still burned my tongue which was less of a problem as I added the years to my pipe smoking experience and only smelled good to the public around me, I regularly used Sir Walter Raleigh tobacco for that fifteen years.

I quit smoking completely in 1984(17 years ago)when it got to where when I breathed deeply I would cough and almost choke, literally.

So in conclusion(mine)a pipe is just as bad as cigarettes as also are cigars.

I've been told you are not supposed to inhale pipe or cigar smoke and my response to that assinine statement is, shouldn't that also include cigarettes, if you're not supposed to inhale, then why smoke?

By the way the best and least expensive way to stop smoking is JUST QUIT!!

Don't let anyone tell you that quitting "cold turkey" is not the best way.

Try this if you are really sincere ask God to give you a greater desire to quit than to continue, it really is that important and it works, but you cannot expect to not suffer some strong withdrawal problems.

Allow yourself time to resist the onslaught of doubt that will come through the urge to just take one puff!

!!!!"DON'T GIVE IN"!!!!

and

!!!!"DON'T GIVE UP"!!!!

57 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:34 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: MississippiMan

Listen to Orblivion he's been there and done that!

"IT WORKS" if you work it (the program)!!

58 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:47 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: MississippiMan
I smoked cigarettes for about ten years, I quit last year cold turkey after a nasty bout of bronchitis. The theory was if I could do it for a day then why not a week or a month, year etc. You get the idea.

That was the easy part, the hard part is breaking the routine. Whenever you're normally used to a cigarette such as after a meal, when drinking etc. It's like pavlov's dog. To this day I still get cravings at specific times although over time some of them have gone completely.

I also switched to chewing and smokeless (dip) tobacco a couple of month's after quitting. This was a mistake because I had it beat and now I crave that instead of cigarettes. My advice is to substitute those cravings with something else other than a pipe. It's like getting rid of one bad habit and substituting it with another. Take it from someone who made the same mistake.

That is unless you don't mind being addicted to a substance but personally, once the cigarettes were kicked I couldn't believe how I was so paralyzed by something the way I was with tobacco.

59 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:48 PM PST by NJ Freeper
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To: MississippiMan
I had no idea I stank like that for 20+ years. Good grief! How rank!

Yup, same thing with me, its bad isn't it? I smoked for 20 years and quit cold-turkey about 12 years ago. Don't miss it a bit and I am so glad that i don't have to pay 3.50 a pack to kill myself!

You need to get away from nicotine all together whatever the form. The first three days are the worst after that its not so bad. Heavy praying and the help of my Lord Jesus freed me from my twenty year, pack and a half a day addiction. Good luck to you.

60 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:51 PM PST by Walkin Man
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