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Any Russia-Ukraine deal is doomed without security guarantees, says Starmer
The Guardian ^ | Mon 15 Dec 2025 | Kiran Stacey

Posted on 12/15/2025 3:03:19 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

A peace deal between Russia and Ukraine will fail unless it is backed up by “robust” security guarantees from western powers, the UK prime minister has said.

Keir Starmer, speaking ahead of talks with European leaders in Berlin, told MPs on Monday he was opposed to any agreement that did not include sufficient military guarantees for Ukraine, as Kyiv comes under mounting US pressure to sign up to a Trump-backed plan.

Starmer said: “European history is full of peace agreements that failed and sometimes led to even greater conflict. And that is why it’s really important we attend to this in detail. Putin has shown time and again that he will keep coming back for more if he sees the chance.”

He added: “Peace agreements fail, in my view, predominantly because there aren’t sufficiently robust security guarantees behind them – which is why the French president and I set up the coalition of the willing … to put in place guarantees from the coalition-of-the-willing countries in accordance with and alongside the US.”

In a separate speech on Monday, Blaise Metreweli, the head of the UK’s Secret Intelligence Service, MI6, said Vladimir Putin was “dragging out negotiations” over Ukraine, in keeping with the spy agency’s long-standing assessment that the Russian leader was not serious about ending the war, except on very favourable terms to the Kremlin.

She accused Putin of engaging in “historical distortions” while insisting that the UK’s support for Ukraine would be enduring, because “it is fundamental not just to European sovereignty and security but to global stability”.

Starmer was speaking to parliament’s liaison committee hours before he was due to board a flight to Berlin for dinner with the leaders of eight European countries, as well as those of the European Commission, the EU Council and Nato.

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TOPICS: Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 2tier; 2tierkeir; blaisemetreweli; britishguarantee; euroweenies; expelukfromnato; letsyouandhimfight; minorityrino; returnthesausages; ukfightyourownwars; ukraine
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1 posted on 12/15/2025 3:03:19 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Then the UK can give them and expect no help from the US then...


2 posted on 12/15/2025 3:05:40 PM PST by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Davos/London globalists want to rope Ukraine into NATO, and thus tie the USA to the consequences of their actions in Ukraine.

Just say NO.


3 posted on 12/15/2025 3:06:35 PM PST by PGR88
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sounds like a job for Super Keir!


4 posted on 12/15/2025 3:08:25 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (I have nro answers. Only questions.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don’t think the NATO countries know exactly what they’re looking for. I sure as heck don’t.


5 posted on 12/15/2025 3:11:09 PM PST by ComputerGuy
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To: MinorityRepublican

guarantees are not worth the paper they are written on. Ukraine already had promises about security in return for giving up their nukes.

But everyone screwed them over as soon as Russia attacked.


6 posted on 12/15/2025 3:15:40 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: MinorityRepublican

7 posted on 12/15/2025 3:15:45 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats seek power through cheating and assassination. They are sociopaths. They just want power.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
So a pipsqueak in the peanut gallery rudely butts in. Well I say he can butt out.

Starmer, you ain't sh*t, walkin', flyin' , or crawlin'.

8 posted on 12/15/2025 3:19:27 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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MI6 chief: 'We are operating in space between peace and war'
9 posted on 12/15/2025 3:19:33 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Guarantees?

Over here with your guarantees.


10 posted on 12/15/2025 3:22:54 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: MinorityRepublican

Security guarantees are what forced Britain into WWII and helped ignite a global war.

The same can be said about WWI as well .

I’m 100% opposed to American providing any kind of military security guarantees to intervene in any future conflict with Ukraine and Russia for obvious reasons .

Both Russia and the Ukraine are completely irresponsible and untrustworthy and both the Ukrainian government and the EU seem to spoiling for a war with Russia


11 posted on 12/15/2025 3:23:15 PM PST by rdcbn1 (..when poets buy guns, tourist season is over................Walter R. Mead.l)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ukraine is doomed if it employs NATO troops in what’s left of it.


12 posted on 12/15/2025 3:24:55 PM PST by Kazan
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Ukraine agreed to be neutral toward Russia in its constitution in 1996 and violated that promise.

There was no scenario where Russia was going to allow Ukraine to keep nukes after the Soviet Union ended. That was ever going to be an option.

13 posted on 12/15/2025 3:26:27 PM PST by Kazan
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There was no scenario where Russia could have done squat about the nukes then. Because... Ukraine had nukes, and they would have just said, attack us... and we use our nukes.

Now they dont have that option and security promises were worthless. No other country will ever give up their nukes in the future because of what happened here.


14 posted on 12/15/2025 3:35:50 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: MinorityRepublican

Good, America is out then.


15 posted on 12/15/2025 3:36:00 PM PST by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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To: packrat35

Makes sense to me. Britain claims to be a nuclear power right?


16 posted on 12/15/2025 3:37:35 PM PST by The Free Engineer
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Russia had far nukes and could have turned Ukraine into a mushroom cloud if they didn't agree to give their nukes.

Ukraine with nukes was an absolute national security threat to Russia that Russians weren't tolerating.

17 posted on 12/15/2025 3:40:46 PM PST by Kazan
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To: MinorityRepublican

The EU says they won’t do anything without us...but they keep on doing...and kissing “Z”s ......


18 posted on 12/15/2025 3:44:42 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Ukraine has 1900 nuclear warheads in 1991 out of about 30,000 total that Soviet Union possessed. Do the math.


19 posted on 12/15/2025 3:45:16 PM PST by Kazan
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To: MinorityRepublican

Commie says what?


20 posted on 12/15/2025 3:46:25 PM PST by ChuckHam
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