where does that cut the fuel off? Could there have been enough fuel “in the lines” to begin a takeoff?
Is the fuel cutoff switch right next to the retract landing gear switch?
Does the flight data recorder say the same thing? I suppose it’s not physically impossible that it happened during the crash. Not very likely, but I’d want to see agreement between their physical position and what the recorder says.
“The fuel cut off switches were found to be in cut off positions, they can only be placed to off manually.”
Source?
Another big jet murder suicide.
The fuel switch for each engine is spring-loaded, meaning it’s not flicked on and off like a light switch. The switch must be grasped, pulled up, moved to the opposite position, and released. The released switch then descends and seats into place. Nigh unto impossible for the both fuel cut off switches to have moved by incidental contact.
Was one of the front-seaters a shaheed?
Would be interesting to know if anyone was in the jump seat..
On vid said that the 787’s instructions if a flame out occurs to one or both engines is to cycle the Run/Cut-off switches in one second to see if that will reignite them.
That may be the case but forgot to put it back into “Run” with all that was happening.
The only other explanation would be a murder / suicide, taking everyone with him.
https://aaib.gov.in/What‘s%20New%20Assets/Preliminary%20Report%20VT-ANB.pdf
Much info here. The flaps were found to be set to 5 degrees, the gear in extend, pictures of the Pedestal,thrust levers, etc….
Ruled it a suicide, actually murder/suicide as 150+ people were on board.
That is a deliberate process that requires you to pull the switches up, move them over the gate to the off position and let them drop down to the off position. Not something you can do accidentally. So the question begs, was one of the pilots, probably the pilot monitoring, a moslem?
A JetBlue captain who I know suspected this exact issue back when the crash happened.
He said that it has happened before, by mistake, but it’s been at altitude and the pilots have had time to recover and restart the engines.
This time they had the extreme bad luck of no altitude and no time.
Loaded airplane, full fuel, at or just after rotation and cutting off the fuel to both engines is DEI enough to be possible, but it sounds more like a murder/suicide.
Very interesting video from a Seasoned Pilot.
This crash was an intentional act of Murder from one of the Pilots.
Exactly, deliberate.
Human error. Thinking an action is being done . . . but unaware that another action is being done.
Muscle memory, anxiety, fatigue, “under pressure” <— known and/or unknown.
“Intended to turn right, but turned left.”
“Intended to hit the brakes, but hit the gas.”
“both switches found in in the off positions”
Not quite correct. According to the official Preliminary Report, the switches were put into the cut-off position but were then put back into the run position - and both were found in the run position. It appears, unfortunately, they were put into the cut-off position at just about the worse possible moment - somewhere between V1 and VR on the take off roll - which left not enough time to restart the engines after take off.
Pilot/Copilot suicide?
I’d read that there is a fire prevention scenario that will activate the cutoffs automatically. The idea that there were cutoffs lurking in the system scared the hell out of me.