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Biden White House considering pre-emptive pardon for retired Gen. Mark Milley who made secret phone calls to China: report
NY Post ^ | 12/06/24 | Victor Nava

Posted on 12/06/2024 12:58:06 AM PST by Libloather

Senior White House officials are reportedly considering issuing retired Gen. Mark Milley a pre-emptive pardon over fears that President-elect Donald Trump’s incoming administration will go after the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The potential pardon for Milley, who was the nation’s highest-ranking military officer for part of Trump’s first term, was reported by the Washington Post Thursday.

Milley, 66, faced intense scrutiny on Capitol Hill during President Biden’s first year in office after journalist Bob Woodward revealed that the Pentagon official placed secret phone calls to a top Chinese official before the 2020 election and after the Jan. 6. 2021, riot at the US Capitol.

During a September 2021 congressional grilling, Milley admitted to calling Gen. Li Zuocheng of the People’s Liberation Army to tell him that he would personally warn China in the event of a US attack during Trump’s waning days in office.

Milley claimed he placed the phone call because US intelligence showed China was worried about an impending strike and he wanted to allay the US adversary’s fears.

In response to the phone calls, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla. – Trump’s pick to lead the State Department – urged Biden to fire Milley, arguing that he worked to “actively undermine the sitting Commander in Chief.”

Trump later wrote on Truth Social that Milley’s backchannel communications amounted to a “treasonous act … so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!”

The president-elect has also said that Milley never informed him about his calls to China.

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Did Mark take the chicom bribes just like Pedo Pete? All these pardons for zero crimes. Fascinating.
1 posted on 12/06/2024 12:58:06 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Won’t matter. Biden was and is illegitimate president.


2 posted on 12/06/2024 1:10:03 AM PST by stanne
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To: Libloather

Can he still be court martial to private?


3 posted on 12/06/2024 1:10:22 AM PST by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: Libloather

Is treason pardonable?


4 posted on 12/06/2024 1:16:47 AM PST by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: Highest Authority

𝘐𝘴 𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘯 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘥𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦?

Anything is pardonable provided that you are doing it to either undermine, or support the right people.


5 posted on 12/06/2024 1:35:13 AM PST by Antihero101607
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To: Libloather

Milley is guilty of treason.

Milley is guilty of espionage.

Arrest him and indict him.

NO pardon for crimes “yet uncommitted” will hold.


6 posted on 12/06/2024 1:36:01 AM PST by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: personalaccts

Dunno. But I’d first try Congress rescinding his commission in the USMC. Maybe that would tell him how bad and how treasonous he is.


7 posted on 12/06/2024 1:39:42 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Libloather

If he didn’t do anything wrong why would him and Biden be worried? This is as bad as getting caught red handed.


8 posted on 12/06/2024 1:44:19 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: Libloather

“Secret phone calls” to our enemies are NOT ok? Who knew?


9 posted on 12/06/2024 1:45:41 AM PST by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: Libloather

BTTT


10 posted on 12/06/2024 2:24:23 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Libloather
I am not a lawyer or Constitutional expert but I did find this below. A pardon of Milley would at the very least raise the question of "what crimes did he commit such that he needs a pardon?" And is he still vulnerable under the law for such crimes beyond what has been covered by a pardon?

The answer appears to be "yes." He can be impeached retroactively and deprived of the benefits he still derives as a retired civilian official.

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1, often referred to as the Pardon Clause. It states:

"The President... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."
Article II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution specifies who can be impeached and the grounds for impeachment:
"The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
Grounds for Impeachment:

Retroactive Impeachment

Retroactive impeachment and conviction can deprive a former federal official of their pension and other benefits. It can also have other consequences, such as disqualification from holding future office and loss of benefits.

None of the above would apply to Milley's military career though because that would fall under the Uniform Code of Military Justice and I think there's a 5 year statute of limitations.

But there is this:

18 U.S.C. § 3281: “An indictment for treason or other capital offense may be found at any time without limitation.”

11 posted on 12/06/2024 2:25:55 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson (paraphrased): "If you strike at the king, don't fail." The Democrats failed. )
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To: Openurmind

See comment #11.


12 posted on 12/06/2024 2:26:35 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson (paraphrased): "If you strike at the king, don't fail." The Democrats failed. )
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To: Libloather

He is so modern though. Thoroughly. Smh


13 posted on 12/06/2024 2:31:07 AM PST by Kudsman (Hey,, Democrat,,leave them kids alone!)
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14 posted on 12/06/2024 2:34:23 AM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Highest Authority

The better question to ask...if you get a pardon from a guy with dementia...is it even valid? Wills are typically thrown out if the person is noted with dementia.


15 posted on 12/06/2024 2:35:29 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: RoosterRedux

Well-done on the research, Rooster.


16 posted on 12/06/2024 2:36:39 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Highest Authority

Is treason pardonable?


My understanding the only thing not pardonable is impeachment.

Treason is defined in the Constitution

Section 3.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.


17 posted on 12/06/2024 2:40:33 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (My opinions are the result of 80 years of life, you may not like them but who cares.)
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To: NFHale
Thx.:-)

My blood boiled when I saw this thread this morning. So I jumped out of bed and started digging.

Not being an expert on this stuff, I might have missed some other ways to bring Milley to justice. Hopefully, Freepers more knowledgeable than I am will dig them up.

18 posted on 12/06/2024 2:45:06 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson (paraphrased): "If you strike at the king, don't fail." The Democrats failed. )
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To: stanne

Right. Overturn 2020 election, reverse pardons and rescind all judicial and board appointments.


19 posted on 12/06/2024 2:49:57 AM PST by CarmichaelPatriot (Recovering Kalifornian... Loving Alabama)
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To: Libloather

Is it possible to pardon the act of treason?


20 posted on 12/06/2024 2:51:36 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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