Posted on 11/20/2024 12:09:48 PM PST by re_tail20
...In many states, those with felony convictions are barred from voting. Black Americans are more than three times as likely to be disenfranchised as other groups.
A nation in which 4 million Americans were denied the right to vote due to a felony conviction has just elected a president who was convicted of 34 felony charges.
In Florida, where President-elect Donald Trump is registered to vote, a person convicted of a felony can vote only after completing the terms of their sentence, including full payment of any fines, fees, costs and restitution.
Trump, who in May was convicted in New York for falsifying business records, has not yet been sentenced, much less completed the terms of his sentence.
But under Florida state law, a person convicted in another state loses their voter eligibility only if the conviction would make them ineligible to vote in that state. In New York, only people who are currently imprisoned on a felony conviction are restricted from casting ballots.
Florida is one of two states, along with Tennessee, where more than 6% of the adult population, or one out of every 17 adults, is barred from voting. More than 961,000 Floridians are currently banned from voting, according to The Sentencing Project. The vast majority of them — an estimated 730,000 — have served their sentences but remain disenfranchised because they cannot afford to pay court-ordered fines, fees and costs.
Trump’s election has exposed these policies for the racially discriminatory hypocrisy that they are.
Felony disenfranchisement is undeniably rooted in white supremacy. In order to be admitted to the Union after the Civil War, the former Confederate states were required to ratify the 14th Amendment, which guaranteed the privileges of citizenship — including the right to vote — to formerly enslaved Americans.
Prohibited by federal law...
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Lets just ignore the fact that Trump’s “felonies” were fake prosecutions ginned up for political purposes and pretend his is the same as somebody who spent 20 years in prison for a murder they actually committed.
Mark Morial is a name I should know. This is not an unbiased writer.
“Felony disenfranchisement is undeniably rooted in white supremacy.”
Sigh...
The legal process is far from complete. That “conviction” is far from an actuality.
Marc Morial was the mayor of New Orleans.
(Former US Prosecutor) McCarthy and Professor Turley (each of them Fox News contributors) both say he is not considered a “convicted felon” until he is sentenced.
Which probably won’t be until after Donald leaves the White House in 2029.
The writer was doing a descent job up to that point and then decided to throw their credibility away by inputting ideology instead of facts.
They just can't help themselves.
Ugh... Agreed. It’s stupid “short cut” logic that has more to do with personal opinion and political BS than facts.
Felon disenfranchisement is, historically speaking, relatively new. It used to be that when you got out of jail, you’d get all your possessions back... including your firearms.
However, having so many idiotic “paper” felonies, “social” justice policies creating revolving doors, etc... that they’ve tried to make the penalties for certain crimes more “impactful” by making them life long.
However, people like Wesley Snipes and Martha Stewart are technically felons for life... but who would argue keeping them from voting or owning firearms is in any way “just”?
If people are too dangerous to Society to allow their freedoms, keep them locked up or execute them.
The premise of this argument is flawed and irrelevant. PDJT’s “guilty” verdict in a stalinesque show trial has not and never will be been converted to a judgment, ergo no conviction. Maybe you think this is a “technicality”, but it is not. It makes all the difference and happens all of the time in real courts with real cases.
Setting aside the nothingburger premise of this essay, I actually do agree once a sentence has been satisfied, the debt to society is paid. Lifelong disenfranchisement fails to recognize that fact. Continuing to punish a person after their sentence is complete by excluding them from political participation is unjustified since the convicted person will still be subject to the laws passed by that gov., IMO. Because a felon will be subject to those laws, they too should have a say on whether they are passed/vote for his preference.
If you are on parole you do not get to vote.
If you are neither, you should have all the rights of any other citizen.
If this person is so dangerous that they can not be allowed to vote they should be locked up.
ALL of those prosecutions in NYS were leftist manipulation and legal calumny because he was Trump.
Malicious prosecutors, rabid leftist judge(s) and lickspittle juries.
I don’t count any of the things they got on him in NYS as criminal in any way, certainly not felonies.
As my T-shirt says, “I voted for the Felon - Trump 2024!”
Starting to feel redundant though... Like we keep saying the same things over and over again.
Might have to run those words through ChatGPT and see if it can say the same thing with different verbiage... :-)
Completely ignoring the absolute fact the the black community commits crimes at a far higher rate than their percentage of the population. The 9% that are black men commit 50% of the murders. But the idiot media resolutely refuses to acknowledge that demonstrable fact.
THERE ARE “FELONIES”
AND THEN THERE ARE PHONY “FELONIES”
One question, has Trump been officially convicted?
“Felony disenfranchisement is undeniably rooted in white supremacy.”
Well I certainly deny it. If it was so then white felons would be allowed to vote.
Should the ban be broadly applied? No, people would be surprised at just what is classified as a felony under various state and federal statutes. Not to mention those who are beat down by the judicial system and take a plea despite their innocence.
Those serving a prison sentence should be disenfranchised with a chance to regain the right after release and meeting conditions.
Just another leftist using anti-Trump lawfare to justify bad policy. Not “food for” thought, just indigestion.
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