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Biden cease-fire push falters again after new demand by Hamas
WaPo via msn ^ | 07 Sept 2024 | Yasmeen Abutaleb

Posted on 09/08/2024 12:32:12 AM PDT by blueplum

President Joe Biden’s months-long push for a cease-fire and hostage release deal between Israel and Hamas has been upended again in recent days, putting the deal on life support as U.S. officials say they are reassessing next steps after they initially hoped to present the two sides with a “take it or leave it” proposal...

The latest obstacle — the abrupt introduction by Hamas of a new demand...

The two sides had tentatively agreed that at a certain point, Israel would release Palestinian militants serving life sentences in exchange for Hamas freeing Israeli soldiers. But this week, Hamas said civilian hostages would also need to be exchanged for these longtime prisoners, an idea the official called a “poison pill....”

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bidensfollies; ceasefire; elections; fjb; gaza; hamas; hostages; meddling; middleeast; palestine; redherring; sabotage
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1 posted on 09/08/2024 12:32:12 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Just leave it alone, Joe. Your demented meddling will just have tragic consequences for Israel.


2 posted on 09/08/2024 12:53:50 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC
Just leave it alone, Joe. Your demented meddling will just have tragic consequences for Israel.

Netanyahu isn't taking Biden seriously.

3 posted on 09/08/2024 12:55:24 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: blueplum

Face it, those hostages are dead.
Screw the world!
I’declare that for every live hostage not delivered within 48
hours, I’d kill 10 Convicted Hamas prisoners.
Take them up in a helicopter, to 10 feet above sea level slather them with pig blood and push them out over the ocean, with handcuffs still on.
Make sure you are 20 miles out from land.
Dead hostages, raped, or abused hostages would cost them 100 convicted Hamas, eliminated in the same manner.


4 posted on 09/08/2024 12:58:09 AM PDT by rellic (no such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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To: rellic

You stole my intended post!
But you are more lenient than I was thinking.


5 posted on 09/08/2024 1:04:04 AM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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To: blueplum

Hamas knows Biden is feckless, weak, and always for sale.


6 posted on 09/08/2024 1:06:23 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Fake news, fake election, fake president, real tyranny.)
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To: blueplum

Gee, it seems like Hamas is being totally unreasonable. Well, what do you expect from a bunch of mass murderers, rapists, and torturers who make Satan look humble by comparison?


7 posted on 09/08/2024 1:13:20 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: blueplum
You just can't make this stuff up.

These Hamas people are demented .

The Biden Administration sends the Israelis an ultimatum to end the fighting and withdraw from Gaza. - and Hamas rejects it.

The worse Hamas is getting it's ass kicked, the more irrational and grandiose their demands become. You simply cannot negotiate with these people.

8 posted on 09/08/2024 2:17:41 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: rellic
Face it, those hostages are dead.
Screw the world!
I’declare that for every live hostage not delivered within 48
hours, I'd kill 10 Convicted Hamas prisoners.
Take them up in a helicopter, to 10 feet above sea level slather them with pig blood and push them out over the ocean, with handcuffs still on.
Make sure you are 20 miles out from land.
Dead hostages, raped, or abused hostages would cost them 100 convicted Hamas, eliminated in the same manner.


I think that the Hamas strategy is to bait Israel into escalating the war so they can draw Iran or some other Islamic states into attacking Israel.

The war in Gaza has already been attacking many ISIS style fighters to the region to join the fight with Hamas.

If Israel opens up the Philadelphia Corridor tens of thousands of ISIS style Jihadis from around the world will flood into Gaza looking to become Shahid’s for Allah.

It will be like Syria all over again with Jihadi from terror cells all over the world rushing to Gaza to get into the fight.z

Israel will be facing a two front war with a Hamas reinforced and re armed by Daesh on It's southern border and Hezbollah on it's Northern border backed by a soon to be nuclear weapons armed Iran.

The Biden Administration has totally screwed America militarily.

Just did a quick review of how many weapons the Eisenhower Carrier Task Force blew through defending against the Houthis missile attacks .

The numbers are shocking and totally unsustainable.

Biden blew through hundreds of Standard missiles at $12 -$36 million a pop, over 400 hundred Tomahawk cruise missiles and over a thousand air to air missiles while flying over thirty thousand combat flight hours.

Between the Ukraine and the Houthis, Biden has depleted our munitions stores in a near criminally negligent fashion to accomplish very little.

We have squandered about 10 billion dollars worth of irreplaceable missiles just doing worthless, going through the motions for media purpose pin prick retaliations against the Houthis in Yemen.

It's almost as if the Biden Administration has is engaged in a policy of unilateral disarmament of the US military via firing our highest value weapons at the lowest value targets imaginable in an intentionally feckless and militarily ineffective series of defensive responses that only strengthen our Iran and the Houthis

9 posted on 09/08/2024 3:08:37 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: blueplum

I have a better idea. Drop the lifers, one a day, onto Hamas’ held areas from planes @ 5,000 ft. Indicate this will continue until Hamas surrenders unconditionally.


10 posted on 09/08/2024 3:17:07 AM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: rellic

Drop them on Hamas controlled areas.


11 posted on 09/08/2024 3:17:42 AM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: blueplum

Of course hamas is going to change the game as they get close to an agreement.

They don’t want an agreement.

They could release the hostages NOW, no strings attached, but they won’t. Nobody is forcing them to continue to hold those hostages.


12 posted on 09/08/2024 4:23:34 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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To: blueplum

Biden negotiates with terrorists.

I am so old that I remember when this was an impeachable offense and doing it would be universally condemned.

. . . if done by a republican.


13 posted on 09/08/2024 4:48:04 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: blueplum

Biden will hand over a couple billion to Hamas, they will release those hostages that are still alive. Then buy more weapons and start the sh1t show once again. But in the meantime the dems will take credit for ending the war that never ends.


14 posted on 09/08/2024 4:52:15 AM PDT by Omnivore-Dan
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Biden needs to forget his plans & start paying attention to Mr. Netanyahu who seems to have some notion of what he’s doing. Obviously, Biden’s plans haven’t worked too well.


15 posted on 09/08/2024 5:36:08 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: EinNYC

You’ve got it wrong........

“Just leave it alone Barack”...... Obama is behind the negotiations. Obama agents in the White House are the negotiators

The hostages do not really matter. What matters is the Obama legacy of favor with Iran


16 posted on 09/08/2024 5:41:12 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: rdcbn1

“Programmable ammunition of the 23mm caliber fired from the ZU-23-2, primed for air-burst modes in hundreds of rounds, can create a massive wall of shrapnel, enough to hit incoming cruise missiles’ front nose sections and the engine, disabling them mid-air.

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/challenging-atacms-storm-shadow-russia-develops-gun-contro/


17 posted on 09/08/2024 5:57:31 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: blueplum

“On June 22 1982, Joe Biden was a Senator from Delaware and confronted then Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin during his Senate Foreign Relations committee testimony, threatening to cut off aid to Israel.”

“Begin forcefully responded, ‘Don’t threaten us with cutting off your aid. It will not work. I am not a Jew with trembling knees. I am a proud Jew with 3,700 years of civilized history. Nobody came to our aid when we were dying in the gas chambers and ovens. Nobody came to our aid when we were striving to create our country. We paid for it. We fought for it. We died for it. We will stand by our principles. We will defend them. And, when necessary, we will die for them again, with or without your aid.’”

https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2020/06/menachem-begin-to-joe-biden-i-am-not-a-jew-with-trembling-knees-3527055.html

“According to the many reports on this meeting, back in 1982, the American senator reportedly banged his fist on the table. Begin wasn’t pleased with this attitude.”

“He responded. ‘This desk is designed for writing, not for fists. Don’t threaten us with slashing aid. Do you think that because the US lends us money it is entitled to impose on us what we must do?’”

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-800679


18 posted on 09/08/2024 6:01:40 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: Brian Griffin

Have you seen biden recently? He has deteriorated even further with his dementia...if that is even possible. He’s lucky each day if he doesn’t soil himself and if he can say “Yes” to ice cream. LOL! Pathetic. A true “world leader” there.


19 posted on 09/08/2024 6:05:40 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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To: hal ogen

Thinking his resignation will be our October Surprise. This would be huge boost for Harris, and likely seal a victory for her as a certain segment of our society votes while high on the ‘Joy’ of seeing a woman in the White House.


20 posted on 09/08/2024 6:14:28 AM PDT by drwoof
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