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1 posted on 09/08/2024 12:32:12 AM PDT by blueplum
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Just leave it alone, Joe. Your demented meddling will just have tragic consequences for Israel.


2 posted on 09/08/2024 12:53:50 AM PDT by EinNYC
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Face it, those hostages are dead.
Screw the world!
I’declare that for every live hostage not delivered within 48
hours, I’d kill 10 Convicted Hamas prisoners.
Take them up in a helicopter, to 10 feet above sea level slather them with pig blood and push them out over the ocean, with handcuffs still on.
Make sure you are 20 miles out from land.
Dead hostages, raped, or abused hostages would cost them 100 convicted Hamas, eliminated in the same manner.


4 posted on 09/08/2024 12:58:09 AM PDT by rellic (no such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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Hamas knows Biden is feckless, weak, and always for sale.


6 posted on 09/08/2024 1:06:23 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Fake news, fake election, fake president, real tyranny.)
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Gee, it seems like Hamas is being totally unreasonable. Well, what do you expect from a bunch of mass murderers, rapists, and torturers who make Satan look humble by comparison?


7 posted on 09/08/2024 1:13:20 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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You just can't make this stuff up.

These Hamas people are demented .

The Biden Administration sends the Israelis an ultimatum to end the fighting and withdraw from Gaza. - and Hamas rejects it.

The worse Hamas is getting it's ass kicked, the more irrational and grandiose their demands become. You simply cannot negotiate with these people.

8 posted on 09/08/2024 2:17:41 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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I have a better idea. Drop the lifers, one a day, onto Hamas’ held areas from planes @ 5,000 ft. Indicate this will continue until Hamas surrenders unconditionally.


10 posted on 09/08/2024 3:17:07 AM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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Of course hamas is going to change the game as they get close to an agreement.

They don’t want an agreement.

They could release the hostages NOW, no strings attached, but they won’t. Nobody is forcing them to continue to hold those hostages.


12 posted on 09/08/2024 4:23:34 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus”)
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Biden negotiates with terrorists.

I am so old that I remember when this was an impeachable offense and doing it would be universally condemned.

. . . if done by a republican.


13 posted on 09/08/2024 4:48:04 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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Biden will hand over a couple billion to Hamas, they will release those hostages that are still alive. Then buy more weapons and start the sh1t show once again. But in the meantime the dems will take credit for ending the war that never ends.


14 posted on 09/08/2024 4:52:15 AM PDT by Omnivore-Dan
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“On June 22 1982, Joe Biden was a Senator from Delaware and confronted then Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin during his Senate Foreign Relations committee testimony, threatening to cut off aid to Israel.”

“Begin forcefully responded, ‘Don’t threaten us with cutting off your aid. It will not work. I am not a Jew with trembling knees. I am a proud Jew with 3,700 years of civilized history. Nobody came to our aid when we were dying in the gas chambers and ovens. Nobody came to our aid when we were striving to create our country. We paid for it. We fought for it. We died for it. We will stand by our principles. We will defend them. And, when necessary, we will die for them again, with or without your aid.’”

https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2020/06/menachem-begin-to-joe-biden-i-am-not-a-jew-with-trembling-knees-3527055.html

“According to the many reports on this meeting, back in 1982, the American senator reportedly banged his fist on the table. Begin wasn’t pleased with this attitude.”

“He responded. ‘This desk is designed for writing, not for fists. Don’t threaten us with slashing aid. Do you think that because the US lends us money it is entitled to impose on us what we must do?’”

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-800679


18 posted on 09/08/2024 6:01:40 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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My current suggestion for a deal:

24 hours of no bombing for every live hostage returned
12 bonus hours for each additional live hostage returned on the same day within the first 20 calendar days of the agreement
6 hours of no bombing for every dead hostage delivered up

24 hours of no bombing if a complete set of tunnel maps is furnished to the Israeli negotiating team before September 15th

Israel to supply a list of possible hostages within ten days. Israel shall acquire the right to use in Gaza 20kg of high explosive for each day a listed individual is not returned or delivered up.

HAMAS and the Palestinian Authority separately and jointly agree to criminally prosecute and severely punish all violence against hostages.

At any time, Israel may shoot to kill by gunfire any person presenting an apparent armed threat to Israelis or any person specified by Israel reasonably suspected of a war crime who is not in a widely known, habitually judicially used, government funded detention facility for common criminals any time at least 24 hours after such request has been made and remains in effect. Except during no bombing periods, Israel shall have the right to kill by missiles with warheads of less than six kilograms of high explosive any such persons.

Restrictions imposed on Israel by this agreement shall voided by any Gazan source action in gross violation of this agreement.


21 posted on 09/08/2024 7:02:59 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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Hamas & Islam are “double-bind” players in a game of “damned if you do; damned if you don’t”. Eventually it becomes a zero sum game that allows Hamas & their ilk to create non-stop chaos, catastrophic conflict against Israel & any others they choose to engage in their effort to control, dominate & eradicate those willing to participate & allow the continuation of the double bind. The only way to stop a double bind game is to put an end to engaging with the double-bind player by refusing to play “damned if I do; damned if I don’t” or by winning & imposing sanctions & order upon them.


24 posted on 09/08/2024 9:31:13 AM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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