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SCOTUS Ruling Deems Trump’s New York Conviction Unconstitutional on Two Key Grounds
The People's Voice ^ | June 25, 2024 | Staff

Posted on 06/25/2024 9:17:23 AM PDT by Red Badger

The Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) delivered two precedent-setting rulings that could significantly impact former President Donald Trump’s criminal convictions.

In a decisive 6-3 decision in the Erlinger vs United States case, the Supreme Court ruled that juries must be unanimous on each criminal count, a standard not met in Trump’s New York case, where the jury returned a 4-4-4 verdict on the underlying crime.

This ruling underlines that Trump’s conviction was unconstitutional and must be overturned. During Trump’s New York trial, the judge had instructed the jury that unanimity on the specific crimes was unnecessary, as long as they agreed that a crime had taken place.

Additionally, SCOTUS ruled that sentencing enhancements cannot be arbitrarily implemented by judicial fiat, further solidifying the protections against unjust legal procedures.

These rulings have profound implications for Trump’s legal battles, particularly the controversial case led by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, and the bogus J6 1512(c) charges and sentencing enhancements that corrupt federal judges have announced they will implement if the Supreme Court nukes 1512(c).

The Supreme Court’s decisions underscore the necessity for unanimous jury verdicts in criminal convictions and proper judicial processes in sentencing enhancements, casting doubt on the validity of current and future proceedings against Trump.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bloggers; fakenews; gatorplant; immunity; reversibleerror; scotus; scotustrump; scouts; soctustrump; supremecourt; trump; trumppersecution; trumpscotus; trumpwasright; unanimous; unconstitutional
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To: Magnum44

Right. It simply may be related.

Hopefully, so, anyway.


81 posted on 06/25/2024 10:25:51 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: Magnum44

23-370 Erlinger v. United States (06/21/2024)

Supreme Court of the United States (.gov)
https://www.supremecourt.gov › opinions
PDF
4 days ago — JUSTICE GORSUCH delivered the opinion of the Court. This case concerns the Armed Career Criminal Act. (ACCA) and the Fifth and Sixth Amendments.

I have not seen anyone suggesting it is a Trump specific case, merely that it sets a precedent that will allow overturning of the Trump case.


82 posted on 06/25/2024 10:27:46 AM PDT by JayGalt (DEI = Didn’t Earn It)
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To: Jim W N

Pleasure!


83 posted on 06/25/2024 10:28:21 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: laplata

Only if Trump’s Attorneys are prepping a Petition for Writ of Certiorari to the USSC as we speak. I do not see how they could not accept it and stay the sentencing. Both cases have the same lack of due process issue.


84 posted on 06/25/2024 10:30:15 AM PDT by jpp113
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To: CraigEsq
Thank you. I was going to say the same thing.

The whole "4-4-4" thing was a hypothetical in the news to explain the wiggle room the jury was given.

-PJ

85 posted on 06/25/2024 10:31:02 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Red Badger

This provides the NY courts, “cover”. They can now say that SCOTUS said XYZ, thus the verdict must be thrown out and a new trial started if NY State wants to re try (do over)

However

I have little faith that is what will happen.


86 posted on 06/25/2024 10:32:29 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: JayGalt

Title still very misleading. Its an opinion article, not breaking news. It ‘may’ vs ‘will’ allow overturning of Trump case. Pardon me if if dont break out any champagne just yet.


87 posted on 06/25/2024 10:32:36 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: All

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There are about seven easy, crystal clear bases for overturning the NY Verdict.

Mark my words, the easiest is juror instructions, he gave them the wrong instructions for the Federal Law they were to contemplate. The count that made it a felony.


88 posted on 06/25/2024 10:33:26 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Impeachment Inquiry is necessary since Deep State is blocking )
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To: bigbob

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Bigbob is right.

And the Court of Appeals (in NY) is playing their part.

NY changed the statute of limitations to get Trump. That’s unconstitutional.


89 posted on 06/25/2024 10:35:15 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Impeachment Inquiry is necessary since Deep State is blocking )
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To: Red Badger

Trump should now sue anytime and everytime someone calls him a convicted felon.


90 posted on 06/25/2024 10:39:40 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Magnum44

I understand. I think the decision will be helpful but there are slips between cup & lips.


91 posted on 06/25/2024 10:41:51 AM PDT by JayGalt (DEI = Didn’t Earn It)
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To: Red Badger

Seems like this would have ripple effects. Trump skates but since ruling wasn't based on "immunity", then Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton are all potential candidates for actual crimes committed while in office?

92 posted on 06/25/2024 10:42:22 AM PDT by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Red Badger

It’s time to Sue Pinhead Alvin


93 posted on 06/25/2024 10:44:24 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Red Badger
Additionally, SCOTUS ruled that sentencing enhancements cannot be arbitrarily implemented by judicial fiat, further solidifying the protections against unjust legal procedures.

Isn't that what they did to Mark Steyn?

94 posted on 06/25/2024 10:48:20 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: erkelly

Yes, large balloons will fly saying orange man convicted felon.
Dumbnuts will glue themselves to anything
causing taxpayers to pay more for dumbnut crimes.
There’s always stores to rob?
Are there any statues left?
Street names to change?

And ‘racist’ to be replaced with pronouns.

When will the ‘pronouns’ demand reparations. On and on and on!


95 posted on 06/25/2024 10:50:43 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Bye done!)
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To: erkelly

“ I don’t think it will stop the Democrats from calling him a convicted felon.”

Of course not because they’re liars.

But it should.

It allows Trump to authoritively say it was a kangaroo court where the judge violated the Constitution just to convict him.

The Supreme Court says it was an illegal trial.

They tried to put him in jail in an illegal trial.

That’s a good talking point.


96 posted on 06/25/2024 10:51:31 AM PDT by ifinnegan (MDemocrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Red Badger
Awesome news. Some progress on the rule-of-law

Thank you SCOTUS. You need to do more, far more. But this is a good beginning. This nation is under attack. We need you help in beating back that attack. This is war.

97 posted on 06/25/2024 10:57:59 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Red Badger

We need judicial reform.

If a pro-life grandmother has to spend $ millions to defend her right to free speech, that right is violated.


98 posted on 06/25/2024 11:01:14 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: Brian Griffin

“I don’t think it will stop the Democrats from calling him a convicted felon.”

Juries can award big money for defamation.


Defamation doesn’t apply to public figures. If it did, Biden and Hillary would shut this site down in a second.


99 posted on 06/25/2024 11:01:15 AM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king (Just a Texas Playboy at heart!)
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks.


100 posted on 06/25/2024 11:05:26 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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