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Black women most likely to die in medieval London plague (actual BBC article)
BBC ^ | 11/21/2023

Posted on 11/21/2023 6:38:46 AM PST by Drew68

Black women of African descent were more likely to die of the medieval plague in London, academics at the Museum of London have found.

The study is the first archaeological exploration showing how racism influenced a person's risk of death during what was known as the Great Pestilence or Great Mortality.

The research is based on 145 individuals from three cemeteries.

The outbreak is believed to have claimed the lives of 35,000 Londoners.

Data on bone and dental changes of the 145 individuals from East Smithfield emergency plague cemetery, St Mary Graces and St Mary Spital formed the basis of the study.

It found there were significantly higher proportions of people of colour and those of Black African descent in plague burials compared to non-plague burials.

The likelihood of dying from the Great Pestilence was highest amongst those who already faced significant hardship, including exposure to famines that hit England during this time.

The research concluded that higher death rates amongst people of colour and those of black African descent was a result of the "devastating effects" of "premodern structural racism" in the medieval world.

What was the medieval plague?

Often referred to today as the Black Death, the outbreak of 1348-1350 was a deadly infectious disease that swept across Asia and Europe, killing millions of people.

Modern scientific research has identified this as a plague pandemic but in the mid-1300s people had no idea what the disease was or how to stop it.

It arrived in London in the autumn of 1348 and lasted until the spring of 1350.

More than half the population of London died. Emergency cemeteries had to be set up to bury them.

The disease was carried by rats who had infected fleas...

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; babylonbee; blackplague; eastsmithfield; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; london; middleages; plague; uk; unitedkingdom; wakanda
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To: Drew68

Fleas are racist. Who knew?


41 posted on 11/21/2023 8:50:52 AM PST by Augie
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To: Jamestown1630

I’ve read a goodly amount of Kipling and he had one of the characters in a story use the ‘N’ word in reference to the native Indians...........Therefore we must ‘cancel’ Kipling..........


42 posted on 11/21/2023 8:52:19 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Fiji Hill

The legends tell of a Moorish knight of the Round Table, Morien; to wind up in the legends, they were not unknown or all despised in England.


43 posted on 11/21/2023 9:01:34 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: TomGuy
Those 3 cemeteries could have been in predominately black areas.

Yeah, in the 1300s! London's predominantly Black areas! Sure! Probably very close to the predominantly East Indian neighborhoods of 14th-century London!

Regards,

44 posted on 11/21/2023 9:19:12 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Robert DeLong
What consideration was given to the cemeteries themselves?

Bingo! Or the make up of the neighborhood or church membership?

45 posted on 11/21/2023 9:21:00 AM PST by bgill
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To: Drew68
Data on bone and dental changes of the 145 individuals from East Smithfield emergency plague cemetery, St Mary Graces and St Mary Spital formed the basis of the study. It found there were significantly higher proportions of people of colour and those of Black African descent in plague burials compared to non-plague burials.

Oh, holy crap. This presupposes that the native white population all buried their plague dead to the same percentage of white vs POC population in these utility graveyards rather than their own properties or other churchyards. This is faulty sixth-grade logic.

46 posted on 11/21/2023 9:28:36 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Robert DeLong

Wait a second.... According to transcultists gender is a social construct and can’t be determined by skeletons. Did these “scientists” assume the gender of these victims? Did the skeletons also assume race? Intersectionality......


47 posted on 11/21/2023 9:34:41 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Drew68

So 145 random graves dug up in 1 cemetery have higher percentage of blacks than the general population of London at the time…. Must be racism. Could not possibly be any other reason…

Like oh I don’t know, socioeconomic makeup of that neighborhood, the random happenstance of the 145 bodies exhumed isnt an accurate representation of thr overall bodies buried… etc etc etc

Nope, racism… drop mic.


48 posted on 11/21/2023 9:37:19 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Drew68
"We have met Wakanda, and it is Merry Old England."

Scrooge and Bob Cratchit were black,, and so was tiny Tim.

49 posted on 11/21/2023 9:45:08 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Drew68

Uhhh how many Black people were in London at the time? Is it more than can be counted on the fingers of a single hand?


50 posted on 11/21/2023 9:47:33 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Drew68

How can they conclude it was because of racism? They have zero evidence it was racism. Surely these archeologists must have had a class in research design, logic or epidemiology. There is evidence that races differ in how susceptible they are to different disease.

Whatever these woke folks blame on others - it’s projection. They project their own racism onto others.


51 posted on 11/21/2023 10:04:21 AM PST by ladyjane
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52 posted on 11/21/2023 10:06:54 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Drew68

There is a movie, The Lavender Hill mob, starring Alec Guinness, shot in 1951. There are lots of shots of really crowded London streets. Not a black face to be seen.


53 posted on 11/21/2023 11:24:47 AM PST by hanamizu ( )
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To: Drew68

145 out of 35,000...wow. I had a statistics professor one time who used to haul stuff like this in front of his class as a reason everyone should take statistics - it helps you know when you’re being lied to.


54 posted on 11/21/2023 11:33:39 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: ABN 505

Actually there would have been Moores in Britain at the time as there was trade between Moorish Spain and Britain at the time. Spain would be occupied by the Moores (partly) for another 100 years

They would have been few in Britain at the time, they would have been mostly transient and they would have been free men.

And certainly there would have been few if any in British cemeteries because they would not have been Christian. A non-Christian would never have been burned in a British cemeteries at the time.


55 posted on 11/21/2023 1:55:45 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Organic Panic

Good point, you need to address those very questions to the ones who did the study. 😋 👍


56 posted on 11/21/2023 4:42:54 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Jamestown1630
The legends tell of a Moorish knight of the Round Table, Morien; to wind up in the legends, they were not unknown or all despised in England.

The number of Moors in 14th Century England were likely no more than a fraction of 1% of the population. There were no Asians in 14th Century England.

The notion that medieval England was a racially diverse society is a recent modern construct, propped up by bogus, pseudoscience meant to install among young people a false perception that Britain has always been multicultural.

It's simply not true. And this fakery is not happening in just Britain, but all over modern Europe.

57 posted on 11/21/2023 4:51:46 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: Drew68

I’m not sure where you get ‘Asians’.

‘South Asia’ means something different to Brits than it may to US.


58 posted on 11/21/2023 7:21:40 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630
I’m not sure where you get ‘Asians’. ‘South Asia’ means something different to Brits than it may to US.

I know that. I'm not stupid.

There were no South Asians in 14th Century England.

59 posted on 11/21/2023 7:32:26 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: Drew68

Well, what does that have to do with Black Africans in Britain in the Middle Ages?

You don’t think that the Romans had brought a lot there?


60 posted on 11/21/2023 8:22:32 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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