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That's right, Vivek Ramaswampy was not a natural born Citizen at birth ensuring sole allegiance to the United States. He's ineligible. He's a statutory Citizen but not an Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. The two are not the same. Nowhere in the 14th Amendment are the words "natural born Citizen".

Clause 5 Qualifications:

[No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.]

As you see, the only time a Citizen could be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution until a first generation natural born Citizen was eligible. Martin Van Buren was the first natural born Citizen president.

1 posted on 07/27/2023 1:23:56 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Then neither was Obama.


2 posted on 07/27/2023 1:25:40 PM PDT by reviled downesdad (Some of the lost will never believe the Truth and hate you for it.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Geez Here we go again. If Obama could be president so could Vivek.


3 posted on 07/27/2023 1:25:53 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

He was born in Cinncinatti Ohio.

Don’t waste our time with this nonsense again.


4 posted on 07/27/2023 1:26:36 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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He has no chance of winning so I wouldn’t worry about it too much


5 posted on 07/27/2023 1:27:22 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I believe that the courts will hold that anyone who was a US citizen at birth is a natural born citizen. You are entitled to disagree, but I think you will lose in court, if a court ever hears the case.


6 posted on 07/27/2023 1:27:27 PM PDT by devere
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To: Macho MAGA Man

The natural born citizen requirement was ignored in the 2008 and 2012 elections.

Much as the 10th Amendment is often ignored as are the 4th amendment and first amendment protections.


7 posted on 07/27/2023 1:27:39 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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Wong Kim Ark is that like We Tu Roe
8 posted on 07/27/2023 1:28:45 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

And therefore neither the Vice President.


9 posted on 07/27/2023 1:28:50 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“Vivek Ramaswamy is not legally eligible to be President.”

Isn’t that something the courts should decide?
Oh......wait.


10 posted on 07/27/2023 1:28:52 PM PDT by Tupelo (A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
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"... not legally elligable to be President"

Three words...

11 posted on 07/27/2023 1:29:00 PM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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“ He is a Fourteenth Amendment/Wong Kim Ark citizen”

And he probably has yellow fringe on his flag,too.

All nonsense. There’s no such thing as “a Fourteenth Amendment/Wong Kim Ark citizen”.


12 posted on 07/27/2023 1:29:40 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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what! was his mother born in Scotland?


13 posted on 07/27/2023 1:29:41 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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All the details why Vivek Ramaswampy is not an Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen

https://www.calameo.com/books/00584100367c4573c90f6


14 posted on 07/27/2023 1:30:00 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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Wrong. There are only three kinds of citizen status in the constitution. Naturalized, Natural Born, and Aliens.
If you gain citizenship by birth, you are Natural Born. It is not some parlor game of pre-colonial British common law.

You may not like it but it’s a fact.


16 posted on 07/27/2023 1:30:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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That horse left the barn long ago.

Especially with 10,000+ aliens streaming across the Southern border on a daily basis.


18 posted on 07/27/2023 1:30:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Neither is Kamala or Nimratta Haley.


19 posted on 07/27/2023 1:31:11 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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The ineligibility argument of Vivek Ramaswamy is based on the status of his parents at the time he was born. However, Clause 5 makes no mention of anyone’s parents. The word isn’t even there.

Therefore, I find the argument unconvincing.

Side note: I wish the word was there. Having parents (or a parent) with a possible allegiance to another country is not a good thing. But the word isn’t there. It just isn’t.


22 posted on 07/27/2023 1:32:17 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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As soon as the words “natural born citizen” appear you know are dealing with a room temperature IQ swimming in a sea of wilful ignorance.


23 posted on 07/27/2023 1:32:45 PM PDT by Bayan
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Well, that was always my concern.

But why did this person not also state that Nikki Haley is also not a NBC, and thus us also in eligible to hold the office of President or Vice President? She was born before her parents had been naturalized.

But I want to see when Vivek was born and what the status of his parents were at the time of his birth. Because that is what counts, not the 14th amendment. But I assume it means he has the same issue as Nikki Haley, but he didn't state it completely.

29 posted on 07/27/2023 1:35:06 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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The fact this phony is even considered an option at this point, shows how lost the country is. Even supposed Republicans responding to these polls.

ASSUMING the polls can be trusted, which I don’t.


44 posted on 07/27/2023 1:43:22 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
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