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To: Macho MAGA Man

Wrong. There are only three kinds of citizen status in the constitution. Naturalized, Natural Born, and Aliens.
If you gain citizenship by birth, you are Natural Born. It is not some parlor game of pre-colonial British common law.

You may not like it but it’s a fact.


16 posted on 07/27/2023 1:30:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino
Anyone born in the United States to two non-citizen parents is not a natural born citizen.

If they were an infant, and their parents wanted to leave the United States with them, could the United States government prevent their parents from taking them? No.

If the infant's parents were deported, would the United States government prevent them from taking their child with them under a claim of the infant being a U.S. citizen? No.

If they were an infant and their parents died, would the United States government prevent their grandparents from returning them to their mother country? No.

The child was subject to the laws of their parents' home country (or countries), not the United States, and those not subject to the laws of the United States are not natural born citizens.

54 posted on 07/27/2023 1:50:21 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: DesertRhino

NOT EXACTLY:

NATURAL BORN PERSON MUST BE BORN IN USA AFTER BOTH PARENTS ARE CITIZENS.

THIS IS PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE WHEN PARENTS CAME TO USA FROM OTHER COUNTRY

THEY CAN COME HERE—GET THEIR OWN CITIZENSHIP STATUS-—THEN HAVE A CHILD HERE-—THEN THAT CHILD WOULD BE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

IF PARENTS NOT USA CITIZENS WHEN CHILD IS BORN HERE—CHILD IS ANCHOR BABY

WE HAVE millions of anchor babies


100 posted on 07/27/2023 2:18:13 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: DesertRhino

that it is.


180 posted on 07/27/2023 3:46:55 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (utilize leverage at every opportunity.)
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To: DesertRhino
Wrong. There are only three kinds of citizen status in the constitution. Naturalized, Natural Born, and Aliens. If you gain citizenship by birth, you are Natural Born.

Well that's not quite correct. I spent much of the day perusing the debates on the 14th amendment, and they flat out say the 14th amendment is a naturalization process.

You can be born a citizen, but only because congress created a naturalization statute that takes effect when you are born.

You aren't a natural citizen, you are a congress made "naturalized" citizen.

236 posted on 07/27/2023 5:36:12 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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