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To: DesertRhino
Anyone born in the United States to two non-citizen parents is not a natural born citizen.

If they were an infant, and their parents wanted to leave the United States with them, could the United States government prevent their parents from taking them? No.

If the infant's parents were deported, would the United States government prevent them from taking their child with them under a claim of the infant being a U.S. citizen? No.

If they were an infant and their parents died, would the United States government prevent their grandparents from returning them to their mother country? No.

The child was subject to the laws of their parents' home country (or countries), not the United States, and those not subject to the laws of the United States are not natural born citizens.

54 posted on 07/27/2023 1:50:21 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

Absolutely correct.

https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2023/07/01/vivek-ramaswamy-not-a-natural-born-citizen-of-the-united-states-not-constitutionally-eligible-to-be-president-and-commander-in-chief-of-our-military/

Vivek Ramaswamy’s parents were not U.S. Citizens in 1985 when Vivek was born. When Vivek was born he acquired dual citizenship, one by place of birth and another via his parents. He was not born with singular citizenship and sole allegiance at/by birth to only the USA as is the case for a “natural born Citizen”. He was not born a “natural born Citizen” with the required three legs of being born in the USA to a father and a mother who were U.S. Citizens when Vivek was born. Vivek Ramaswamy fails “The Three Legged Stool Test” for being a “natural born Citizen” of the United States. Vivek Ramaswamy was born to a Citizen of India father (minus one stool leg) and to a Citizen of India mother (minus the 2nd stool leg).

The normal path to becoming a naturalized U.S. Citizen takes five years. Vivek Ramaswamy was born in 1985 . His father and mother emigrated from India to the USA about 40 years ago per the April 3rd, 2023 article in the Washington Post. Calculating back from 2023, that yields the immigration year to the USA for Vivek’s parents as being about 1983. Allowing +-2 years, i.e., 1981-1985 for that calculated “about” year of 1983 for the deduced year of immigration to the USA, there was not sufficient time for either of Vivek’s parents to become naturalized U.S. Citizens when Vivek was born in 1985, since it required at least five years to become a naturalized U.S. Citizen.


64 posted on 07/27/2023 1:56:19 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: T.B. Yoits
You're wrong. There are reams of case law supporting the idea that an individual born in the United States is a citizen regardless of the citizenship of his parents.

The very case referenced by the OP is the definitive case on the matter. Wong Kim Ark.

Stop spouting ignorant nonsense.

86 posted on 07/27/2023 2:09:21 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: T.B. Yoits

Nope. Nothing in the law supports that position. They are US Citizens and nothing in the Constitution says differently. And if you do not have to be naturalized, you are natural born.


103 posted on 07/27/2023 2:19:58 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Do you think India could send Ramaswami a draft notice for the Indian Army? Could they tax him on his income? The US government would not allow such activities.


106 posted on 07/27/2023 2:21:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: T.B. Yoits

The answer would be the same if the parents are both citizens.

“If they were an infant, and their parents wanted to leave the United States with them, could the United States government prevent their parents from taking them?” How would the US stop them from taking their baby overseas if the parents are citizens?

“If the infant’s parents were deported, would the United States government prevent them from taking their child with them under a claim of the infant being a U.S. citizen? “ Again, what law would stop them if they were US citizens?

“If they were an infant and their parents died, would the United States government prevent their grandparents from returning them to their mother country?” Would the US government stop natural born citizens John and Jane from having their British mom come take the baby if they died?


234 posted on 07/27/2023 5:33:30 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (DEATH POKE!)
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