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Machine deploys fog in retail stores to deter burglars [Chicago]
CBS Chicago ^ | JUNE 27, 2023 | TARA MOLINA

Posted on 07/16/2023 11:42:06 AM PDT by Leaning Right

A burglar who can't see something can't steal it either – that is the idea behind a new method of deterring crime by using fog.

As CBS 2's Tara Molina reported Tuesday, the technology behind the fog release is a brand-new way of fighting the mass retail thefts plaguing the city.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; fog
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Well, that’s something different.

I was going to ask, why not just have a couple of guard dogs roam the store? But scratch that idea.

Dog mauls burglar. Burglar sues store. Given that it’s Chicago, burglar wins millions.

1 posted on 07/16/2023 11:42:06 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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O-o-o-o-h! I wish now I were a class action attorney. I can smell the filing for damages from here.

Odd that shooting looters isn't being considered. Maybe that's just the fog of something or the other....

2 posted on 07/16/2023 11:44:18 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Just play the sound of gunfire over the PA.

They’ll scatter like cockroaches.


3 posted on 07/16/2023 11:45:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: Leaning Right

Same problem with fog. I couldn’t see where I was going and I hit my head and got a concussion. Now I can’t play basketball.


4 posted on 07/16/2023 11:46:00 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Leaning Right

This isn’t new. There is or was a system called “Smoke Cloak” that has been used in retail for several decades. The one I saw that was tripped was used as a burglar deterrent. It used theatrical smoke.


5 posted on 07/16/2023 11:47:35 AM PDT by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch)
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6 posted on 07/16/2023 11:49:18 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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I was going to suggest the same. Sometimes low tech violence works better than high tech deterrence.

Another option, only allow customers that qualify as likely not to steal and capable of paying. Hell, the lower cost of doing business could prove better for company and customers.


7 posted on 07/16/2023 11:50:34 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good By Ellen)
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To: Leaning Right

Once the fog gets thick, pipe in the sound of growling dogs from back of store.


8 posted on 07/16/2023 11:51:17 AM PDT by alternatives?
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> I wish now I were a class action attorney. I can smell the filing for damages from here. <

I didn’t consider the many “dangers” of the fog at first. But yes, you might be on to something.

Burglar’s attorney:

“Members of the jury, my client was just walking around the store. Yes, it was after hours. But the evidence will show that he took nothing. Then he was instantly blinded by this terrifying fog! My client tripped, fell, and hurt his back. He is now permanently disabled.”


9 posted on 07/16/2023 11:51:24 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

Mustard gas.


10 posted on 07/16/2023 11:53:20 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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Why not just arrest robbers and give them a few years of hard labor?


11 posted on 07/16/2023 11:55:03 AM PDT by I want the USA back (A man is not a woman. A woman is not a man. There is no in-between or undefined middle. Cat = cat.)
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To: Leaning Right

Equip the night watchman with employment applications.


12 posted on 07/16/2023 11:55:04 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: Leaning Right

That’s an interesting approach to stealing other ways have failed.
A supplier would have the answer to a few general questions.

1..How long does the fog last at maximum density?
2..Are there many toxins within the formula of that fog?
3..How frequently can the system be utilized w/o more maintenance? Once a day? Twice in one day? For how many days till refilling?
4..Can the fob stream be reversed? Maybe it went off accidentally.


13 posted on 07/16/2023 11:58:23 AM PDT by lee martell
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> Once the fog gets thick, pipe in the sound of growling dogs from back of store. <

I guy I knew worked security for a large amusement park. The park closes at 11 PM. Here’s what he told me.

At 10:30 an announcement is made over the PA system: “Park closes in 30 minutes.”
At 10:45 another announcement is made: “Park closes in 15 minutes.”
At 11:00 a last announcement is made: “The park is now closed. Warning, warning. We are releasing dogs in five minutes.”

That last announcement always gets the stragglers out of the park.
But of course there are no dogs.


14 posted on 07/16/2023 11:59:09 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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> Why not just arrest robbers and give them a few years of hard labor? <

Good idea. But it’s not Mayor Daley’s Chicago anymore.
And from what I’ve read, Chicago’s new mayor is even worse than the last one.


15 posted on 07/16/2023 12:03:00 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

In Costa Rica, small connivence stores have a very large guy who opens the door for you to let you inside. Pretty sure that’s not his only job...


16 posted on 07/16/2023 12:03:30 PM PDT by hanamizu
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--- "“Members of the jury, my client was....."

There have been lawsuits over those sorts of chemical smoke used in film and television production, and so "chemical" might well bring out the allergies complaint, the environmental complaint, and....

Yeah, class action attorneys. They will smell chub in the water. Like sharks....

17 posted on 07/16/2023 12:28:11 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Yup they will be sued because the perp injures themselves, or were blinded and trapped in the store. “I was just shopping, now I’m traumatized.”


18 posted on 07/16/2023 12:32:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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One old school approach that might work is to buy insurance from a Vito Corleone. He’s smart enough to keep his rates manageable, and his men are not connected to your store for legal purposes. Once word gets out, the insured stores get left alone.


19 posted on 07/16/2023 12:33:11 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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This isn’t new. There is or was a system called “Smoke Cloak” that has been used in retail for several decades. The one I saw that was tripped was used as a burglar deterrent. It used theatrical smoke.<

That’s right. They have since been made illegal in numerous cities (including mine) due to police and fire emergency response concerns.

20 posted on 07/16/2023 12:37:09 PM PDT by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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