NOTICE: Please knock-off the abusive posts, name-calling, taunting, trolling, stalking, flame-baiting, insults, religious insults, flames, threats, ill-wishes, harassing & annoying posts, unwanted posts & FReepmail, etc, etc, etc

Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

This is not DU!

Discuss the issues all you wish, BUT DO NOT MAKE IT PERSONAL!

Remember to use common courtesy when posting to FR. Leave off the insults and flames, name calling, etc.

We are conservatives. Be respectful to your debate adversary (fellow FReeper). For example, do not accuse them of being a "Putinista", "commrade", "murderer", "baby-killer", etc, just because he may have a difference of opinion whether or not the US government should be involved in a controversial foreign war where we were not attacked.

Likewise, things in the presidential primary are getting over-heated. We want to be sure we come out of this with a Republican president, house and senate. The only way we can accomplish that is to unify the Republican Party. We can't destroy our own candidates. Whoever it is will need to pull us ALL together. Keep the ultimate goal in sight - Freedom! We are not here to fight each other. We are here as allies to fight for God, family, country, and FREEDOM! As William Wallace said in Brave Heart, "Unite the clans!".

Your personal favorite may be Ron DeSantis, mine happens to be President Trump. But if DeSantis receives the nomination, I'll support him, as I hope most other FReepers will.

Incidentally, we are getting way too much profanity. This is NOT DU, this is NOT CNN - (in deep voice) this IS FR!

Finally, if someone says STOP, then STOP! If someone asks you to take them off your ping list, then take them off! If someone asks you to stop posting to them, the adult and polite thing to do is to accommodate them.

Thank you all very much, and God bless you.

[null and void]

What a lost opportunity > IMO.

Oh yeah. Big time. We were allies against Fascist Germany. We could have been allies against acquisitive predatory China, and militant islam.

[BobL]

“Oh yeah. Big time. We were allies against Fascist Germany. We could have been allies against acquisitive predatory China, and militant islam.”

Absolutely, but what destroyed that opportunity was people with a BLOOD FEUD against Russia, many with Ukrainian roots (Nuland’s grandparents, Vindman actually born in Ukraine, and others) - these types quietly worked their way into positions of power, and now ALL AMERICANS are paying the price for letting people with ancient grudges to settle assume power.

[clintonh8r]

Can we stick this to the top of the Breaking News sidebar?

[Jotmo]

“The examples below are typical of how Freepers who are opposed to Ukraine refer to people who support Ukraine’s right to defend itself:”

Really?

Who on FR is “opposed to Ukraine”, and what does that even mean? Opposed to their existence?

And if one side of the argument is, “support Ukraine’s right to defend itself”, it follows that those who disagree with them do not “support Ukraine’s right to defend itself.”

I have never seen anyone on FR suggest that the Ukraine doesn’t have right to defend itself.

That’s a false representations of the arguments being made. You’re only adding to the division by doing that.

[the OlLine Rebel]

I find it funny on this thread that many have posted accusing many posters on a certain side of violating the rules. Calling them shills or trolls, and leftist infiltrators. Even involved suspecting that FR join dates can be altered. Basically, again, libel on anyone who doesn’t agree with them. Yes, I mean about Trump, too. Never mind Ukraine, which I don’t have much opinion on except to say we don’t need to be involved.

[Nextrush]

Thanks for pointing things out.

Matters like the Ukraine War are tough ones and I seriously see deadly evil coming from it.

It’s rough right now because the Presidential Contest is high-stakes the POTUS still carries the reputation of most powerful job in the world.

Big money is being put into launching the nastiest of attacks.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

I think Trump supporters and DeSantis supporters are sincere and believe they are doing what is best for the country.

[rlmorel]

I agree. I see this irritating tendency to demonize.

I have never once said I won’t vote for DeSantis if he is the nominee, but I have people constantly paint me as a “DeSantis hater” even though I think he does a fine job as governor, and the fact that if he were running I would vote for him.

And I see it going the other way too-people branding Freepers who support DeSantis with unflattering attributes.

I understand the negatives and positives of both candidates, and why people hold them, even if I disagree with them.

And as you said-I believe they hold those views because they care deeply about our country, which is more than can be truthfully said about “the other side”.

[LuxAerterna]

I agree 100%!

[Diana in Wisconsin]

I think the closest we’ve come to a dust up over there is whether it’s safe to compost Rhubarb leaves or not, LOL!

And I plan on keeping it that way! :)

[freeandfreezing]

Who on FR is “opposed to Ukraine”, and what does that even mean? Opposed to their existence?

What do you think the posters of the comments below believe about the existence of Ukraine?

"All is fare in Love and War. No safe places for people who fight Russia—your in country—you are helping the enemies of the Motherland. Best to get all the civilians and aide workers out of Ukraine before the Russian push starts. When we get involved—we will target anyone who doesn’t speak English or Ukrainian—men, women, children, nurses and priests. We did this in Iraq—How many did we kill?"

"No Problem, the Uke Nazis can Fix Bayonets, Affix Human Shields and charge anyway, while Shelling and Bombing their own Territory, Infrastructure and Civilians anyway!"

"Unfortunately Ukes are slow learners, most everybody else on the planet has figured out Zelensky’s racket, ... except Ukes."

"Yep, and they can pay in in Ukrainian Women and Children!"

""No Problem, the Uke Nazis can Fix Bayonets, Affix Human Shields and charge...", and we can sit back and watch the fun."

"Looks like the Hohos are not going to make it. They will last until the people of that long suffering land throw of the grifters and make a deal with Putin. The real question is—how long will the long suffering people on America put up with a cardboard cutout president used by a leftist cabal—before we say enough is enough? We need to toss out the overaged grifters who have sucked up the wealth and vitality of the nation for too long. Keep this up and when it explodes it will be bad news for all."

"The Collapse of the EU would be the best thing to happen. They are pure evil. The EU = The Fourth Reich."

"Past Leaders of the Soviet Union added parts of Russia to Ukraine for political necessities. Now, cause Nazi’s got ahold of the Uke levers of power, Russia takes back what was always theirs"

"So, there we have it. When does the carving up of Ukraine begin?…under what pretexts….and just who will regain their historic lands, Poland? Romania? Hungary? One thing we do know- Vlad is never, ever giving up his “ new” Russian provinces."

"Whatever sort of landfill replaces the western part of "ukraine"/country404 will need a new anthem. I would suggest it start sort of like this:

On the banks
of the Dnieper
stood Pooping Bear
a hoho brave....

And that is just a few examples of some FR poster's opinions about Ukraine, and as you can see the EU.

The last comment is clearly from someone who would like to see the nation of Ukraine destroyed, as is the comment from someone who thinks Russia should take back Ukraine, and the comment from someone who thinks Ukraine should be "carved up". I think it is fair to characterize those posters as "Opposed to [Ukraine's] existence.

There are posters who express the opinion that Ukraine started the war, and that the invasion was a result of their actions in 2014. Those posters don't believe that Ukraine is defending itself, they believe that Ukraine is the attacker, and therefore Russia had no choice but to defend Russian speaking citizens.

There are posters who express the opinion that the invasion of Ukraine is justified because of the supposed presence of Nazis in Ukraine.

"Although a blast from the near past, it shows just how high the Ukie Nazis penetrated their government. US’s pet Nazis are alive and well, worse tho, we are sending them billions."

Sometimes they post an image, like the one below

Or this one:

Is it fair to call out the posters of images like that? I think so. What do you think?

[JJBookman]

Sounds like Dem AI trolls have found their way here (no joke!)

[the OlLine Rebel]

Sounds like you and many others on the thread are doing the exact thing warned against. Glib libelous name-calling that anyone who disagrees is a “Dem troll”.

[Hildy]

No, thank YOU. Sometimes I read posts and wonder where I am. I am a politician and I cannot convey how mean people can be. And the hate is not coming from the left, it is coming from the right. I can tell you horror stories. I wish the rule of thumb would be if you wouldn’t say it to someone’s face, don’t say it on social media.

[golux]

Thank you Jim for saying that and reminding us. A lot of us are in great personal pain and we take it out on each other when we fall maybe alienated or insulted. Let’s stick together!

[golux]

This ia a complicated mixed metaphor for chess lovers.

[Shady]

I have had three really snarky posts the last few days. Look, we are all in this together. We may lose FR, AND our Country.

[the OlLine Rebel]

They are still happening. Sometimes out of nowhere. Hit the abuse.

[VictoryGal]

God Bless You, JimRob!!!!

[nicollo]

This IS FR!

my new tagline :)