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CIVIL WAR STARTS IN RUSSIA! Current Ukraine War Footage And News With The Enforcer (Day 485)
The Enforcer ^ | June 23, 2023 | The Enforcer

Posted on 06/23/2023 8:35:54 PM PDT by Widget Jr

Civil War Starts in Russia after Russian forces attacked the Wagner PMC, which has now led to outright war being called between the Russian government and forces loyal to Prighozin. Contact with Vladimir Putin has been lost for now with military blockades being set up around Moscow, and firefights breaking out in the Rostov region of Russia. Meanwhile Ukraine has declared a General offensive across all fronts and is reported to be making massive progress.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilwar; globalistpropaganda; invasion; lukashenko; prigozhin; ramzankadyrov; russia; sergeyshoigu; turkey; ukraine; wagner; wagnergroup; yevgenyprigozhin
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To: USA-FRANCE

“grave threat”, “existential,” etc. Doesn’t sound too confident either.


101 posted on 06/24/2023 12:18:10 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Watching on CNN-News 18, no translation yet. If he is repeating the word “Nazi”, it is not going to help.


102 posted on 06/24/2023 12:22:48 AM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: Widget Jr

Civil War in Russia? Dang! They beat us to it.


103 posted on 06/24/2023 12:25:36 AM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: USA-FRANCE; Peter ODonnell; Greetings_Puny_Humans

To any who understand Russian, is he saying anything important or just bloviating?


104 posted on 06/24/2023 12:25:55 AM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: Widget Jr

Apparently Wagner has succeeded in Rostov, captured the police hq. and left in convoy on the Moscow road. Fighting has been reported at Voronezh which is half way on the 600 miles between Rostov and Moscow. Prigozhin has told people to stay off the highway and they will be left alone. He said anything flying overhead will be shot and apparently 1 helicopter has been put down. Shoigu has fled Rostov, Putin is headed for his secure mansion in Sochi, Lukachenco and family are headed for or are in Turkey, and Sochi is near Turkey. Here is a political map of Russia with important towns listed, also highways, and a distance chart.

https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/russia-political-map.htm


105 posted on 06/24/2023 12:29:56 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!.)
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To: Widget Jr

According to French TV (LCI) they talk about a theory it could be a move by Ukrainian secret service having done a deal with Wagner. That would be quite a thing...


106 posted on 06/24/2023 12:30:00 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: Widget Jr

“… I do not know where you got that quote….”
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It was the last sentence (of three) that you opened this thread with. I assumed it was your sentence. In post 48 I asked a simple question about that sentence. I would have been satisfied by whatever your answer would have had just as I also would have let things lie even if you opted not to answer.

Any flaming in this thread was started by “Puny” interjecting himself starting in post 66 in his standard rude/snide trolling fashion.


107 posted on 06/24/2023 12:32:46 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX’)
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To: gleeaikin

So 300,000 Russian troops are in Ukraine? I assume the remaining troops in Moscow and St. Petersburg are conscripts and police.


108 posted on 06/24/2023 12:33:53 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Widget Jr

Per a translator I heard, Putin compared this to 1917. Stated this is intrigue. That Russia is fighting a grave threat for its future. This is a “mortal fight,” which his government is fighting on behalf of the Russian people. That orders have been given to liquidate the leaders of Wagner.

If you’re still seeing the speech going on, I believe it started to loop thereafter, but it is over now.


109 posted on 06/24/2023 12:43:10 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: gleeaikin

3 helicopters put down per Russian sources (not Prigozhen), including videos of more than one crash.


110 posted on 06/24/2023 12:44:24 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Williams; 11th_VA; marcusmaximus; Widget Jr; ought-six; USA-FRANCE; dfwgator; lodi90; Zhang Fei; ...

“At the moment he [Prigozhin] has taken the tack that Ukraine was a misadventure sold to Putin by corrupt military and oligarchs. So at the moment it appears Prigozhin might end this war.”

It has occurred to me that Putin may have decided/been pursuaded it would be a really good idea to end this war, and is using Prig. to make it happen. He might have offered Prig a major office in the Russian military, or he might end the war and send Prig off to Sudan to make money for himself and Russia.


111 posted on 06/24/2023 12:44:30 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!.)
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To: gleeaikin

After Putin’s speech, Prigozhen can either win or die. No chance this is a deal unless Prigozhen agreed to kill himself because he has depression or something.


112 posted on 06/24/2023 12:46:19 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: All

What kind of military genius says to a guy with an air force, I am driving a convoy up the motorway from Voronezh to Moscow, don’t try to stop me?

Either he has an understanding with Putin, or he is risking having this convoy annihilated by the Russian air force.

Then again, if the Russian air force mutinies and refuses to follow Putin’s command, then Putin is basically toast.


113 posted on 06/24/2023 12:49:55 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (In leftspeak, "disproven false claim" means fact. "Intolerance" means revulsion. "Progress" =failure)
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To: Widget Jr

“Pypa (Putin) made the wrong choice. That’s worse for him. Soon we will have a new president.”

~ Wagner from 8 minutes ago

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672510543247155202


114 posted on 06/24/2023 12:52:13 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

I would assume this rat would not make an attempt for the throne unless he believed the odds were on his side. He was quoting the tail numbers of planes allegedly launched to attack him, which leads me to conclude he has people in the government who support him. They’ve shot down 3 Helis so far. Wagner also has its own airforce, though I don’t know its size. He’s capturing stuff along the way too though.


115 posted on 06/24/2023 12:54:03 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Peter ODonnell
Then again, if the Russian air force mutinies and refuses to follow Putin’s command, then Putin is basically toast.

50/50 chance Putin is toast at this moment.

Even if he survives, Russia is going to lose the war in Ukraine.

116 posted on 06/24/2023 12:56:20 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: gleeaikin; All

Indeed!
On French TV they are talking about a theory that Ukraine’s secret service has managed to turn Prigozhin against Moscow and made a deal with Wagner.
Let’s point this out: Wagner is now in control of Rostov which is the very city all the Russian invasion of Ukraine is being managed from! Wow.
They just said this on French LCI / internet.


117 posted on 06/24/2023 12:57:21 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: MinorityRepublican

I agree.
I think Putin’s chances is about 50/50 now.
Ukraine has now a massive opportunity!


118 posted on 06/24/2023 12:59:48 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: Flag_This

Its not the hiring that was the problem

It was not assisting them or sometimes not paying them while they took some of the harshest fighting.


119 posted on 06/24/2023 1:01:35 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Well Prigozhin may already have a deal with Russia’s Air Force ….


120 posted on 06/24/2023 1:02:08 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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