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Zelenskyy: If Ukraine loses, U.S. must choose between the collapse of NATO or going to war
MSM ^ | 6/15/23 | Miles J. Herszenhorn

Posted on 06/17/2023 6:48:57 AM PDT by JonPreston

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy warned in a television interview on Thursday that the United States could face the "collapse of NATO" or a direct conflict with Russia if Ukraine does not win the war.

"Is he ready to go to war? To fight, to send his kids? Are they ready to die?" Zelenskyy asked. "Because anyway, they will have to do this if NATO gets involved."

Former President Donald Trump, the Republican frontrunner in the 2024 presidential election, would not commit to supporting Ukraine in its war against Russia, during a CNN town hall last month. Instead, Trump pledged to end the war within 24 hours.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: cialosesagain; collapse; nato; neoconsvotedbiden; tacticalnukes; ukraineslushfund; ukraineuberalles; ukrainian; worldwar3; zelenskyworshippers; zelenskyy
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To: JonPreston

I’ll Take NATO for$1000 Alex, please. NATO is a rogue entity unto itself having gone so far beyond its original charter, it SHOULD be disbanded.


61 posted on 06/17/2023 9:33:18 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: JonPreston
Their economy is in TATTERS.

They've been shattered.....Shadoobie!

62 posted on 06/17/2023 9:35:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: rdcbn1
Ukraine IS losing - winners don't say things like that.

Stalemate.

63 posted on 06/17/2023 9:41:10 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

With whose money? Right now, the US is funding the entire Ukrainian government from salaries to pensions and on and on.


64 posted on 06/17/2023 9:58:00 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Gaffer

When we bombed Serbia in 1999, NATO was acting in violation of both the NATO Charter and the UN Charter. And broke the long-standing Peace of Westphalia. Yet we hammer on about our “rules-based International order”. “Rules for thee but not for me”, more like. No wonder much of the world came to regard us as a Not So Benign Hegemon and sought to establish a multipolar world order. The neocons are so wrong headed.


65 posted on 06/17/2023 10:07:07 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: eeriegeno
I'm good with that! Oh and while you're at it collapse the UN too. It desperately needs collapsed.....

Oh, heck yeah! They’re as demonic as the WEF.

66 posted on 06/17/2023 10:14:24 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: JonPreston

Not our war nor Natos,.....


67 posted on 06/17/2023 10:43:16 AM PDT by inchworm (al )
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To: flamberge

“Say, what is this about photos of the Mexican cartel fighters showing up with AT-4s? I thought those antitank weapons were supposed to have been shipped to the Ukraine army. Things that make you go “WTF?”. “

I remember a now-defunct Chicago police blog commenting about all the small arms we left behind in Afghanistan, and openly asking how soon it would be until they started showing up on our streets...implying the urban gangs would either get them through their drug supply lines, or via some foreign government with an ax to grind.


68 posted on 06/17/2023 10:48:22 AM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress" )
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To: JonPreston

Collapse of NATO.


69 posted on 06/17/2023 10:50:56 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: JonPreston

I’ll take the collapse of NATO for $1 Billion.


70 posted on 06/17/2023 10:51:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: JonPreston

I have to give you credit Jon, the way you take on these deranged Ukie freaks and Biden zombies here.


71 posted on 06/17/2023 10:52:53 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: JonPreston

Buh bye, NATO! You never lived up to the hype.


72 posted on 06/17/2023 11:03:32 AM PDT by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: PGR88

haha—who they gonna send Juan and Maria? Kwame? Deepak and Viraj—all who got here last week? The fent addicts living in tents? The purple hairs? Who??


73 posted on 06/17/2023 11:08:36 AM PDT by riri (What’re y’all talking bout? I just got a new set of Michelins for the house!)
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To: JonPreston
At this rate there cannot be peace in the world until the USA is broken up like the Ottoman Empire after the First World War.

I loved the old free USA, but it's never coming back.

74 posted on 06/17/2023 1:06:49 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: CatHerd

NATO BOMBED LIBYA TOO lol


75 posted on 06/17/2023 1:14:39 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Salman

Amen, Salman


76 posted on 06/17/2023 1:15:04 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: budj

NATO needs to collapse. It is a tool of the Biden/EU/WEF axis seeking world domination.


77 posted on 06/17/2023 3:19:22 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Luke21

👍


78 posted on 06/17/2023 4:12:59 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

👍


79 posted on 06/17/2023 4:14:58 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Besides, as Frank Zappa said, "people like to own things."
The WEF has spoken, "You will own nothing and be happy if you are among the lucky few we allow to live.
80 posted on 06/17/2023 5:12:42 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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