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BREAKING: Supreme Court rules Alabama to redraw congressional districts
Associated Press ^ | 6/8/2023 | Mark Sherman

Posted on 06/08/2023 8:06:57 AM PDT by mooncoin

The Supreme Court on Thursday issued a surprising 5-4 ruling in favor of Black voters in a congressional redistricting case, ordering the creation of a second district with a large Black population.

Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh joined with the court’s liberals in affirming a lower-court ruling that found a likely violation of the Voting Rights Act in an Alabama congressional map with one majority Black seat out of seven congressional districts in a state where more than one in four residents is Black.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; kavanaugh; roberts; scotus; votingrightsact
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
Once AGAIN Kavanaugh was NOT WORTH the fight we had to save him, he is a frat boy with his nose completely up Roberts ass!!!

I continue to believe that the beatings that the dems inflicted upon Kavanaugh during his confirmation process gave him a case of political Stockholm syndrome. This causes him to do things sometimes for no reason other than to try to prove to his previous accusers that he’s not as “bad” as they claimed.

101 posted on 06/08/2023 11:13:39 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.y )
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To: kenmcg

The Constitution was abolished in 1964 by the Civil Rights Act.


102 posted on 06/08/2023 11:14:57 AM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Coronal

There’s no mechanism for removing a fraudulently installed President either. And yet the people have the right to do so. The 9th and 10th Amendments and the Declaration of Independence acknowledge that right.

We’re in uncharted territory so the mechanism is unclear. The people will have to create the mechanism. Living with an illegitimate Supreme Court Justice for the next 30 years is not an acceptable option for a free people.


103 posted on 06/08/2023 12:04:22 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Revel

LOL. Total BS. Souter, Stevens, Earl Warren, Blackmun... even Roberts is more liberal than Kavanaugh.


104 posted on 06/08/2023 12:13:45 PM PDT by Stravinsky
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To: Dilbert San Diego
You are not going to find any justice, or any politician for that matter, who votes the conservative way 100% of the time.

True. Thomas and Scalia often find themselves siding with the police state. I simply do not understand the deference they are willing to give.

105 posted on 06/08/2023 1:10:06 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Red Badger

The Republicans have six of those seven safe seats, this is needlessly handing a SAFE seat to the Demonrats. Without the Civil Rights Act, the GOP could draw all 7 to be Republican. This is court-sanctioned stealing by illegal and unconstitutional means.


106 posted on 06/08/2023 1:42:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: CTrent1564

Post #106.


107 posted on 06/08/2023 1:43:00 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: mooncoin

40% of California is conservative, then Cali should be forced to redraw their districts to insure that 40% of conservatives get elected!

This is INSANE!


108 posted on 06/08/2023 2:29:01 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: pepsionice

you simply divide the current black district into 2, and combine to the other smallest white districts.


109 posted on 06/08/2023 2:31:57 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Aagcobb

How would that be accomplished so that the big cities down overwhelm the rural areas?


110 posted on 06/08/2023 3:17:49 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Donald Tantrum? No Thank You. We Can Do Better! I am a Veteran Supporting Veteran DeSantis.)
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To: Alberta's Child
There’s no requirement for House districts in the Constitution. When the country was founded, I believe most states had at-large House members. If your state had 10 House seats, then it would have one statewide election and the top 10 candidates in terms of vote totals would go to Washington.

Please don't give the liberals in NY, CA, IL any new ideas.

111 posted on 06/08/2023 5:58:59 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Ok


112 posted on 06/08/2023 6:00:22 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: noiseman

Apparently Kav was carefully selected by departing Justice Anthony Kennedy as his direct replacement.


113 posted on 06/08/2023 8:39:05 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Reno89519
The downside to at-large seat, says that in Nevada’s example, all of the representatives would be picked by the world, Las Vegas, or Reno, other states would have the same challenge that metropolitan areas would choose all of the at large representatives

I'm not so sure about that. Nevada has four House seats. There are about 3.1 million people in the state. 2.3 million of them live in the Las Vegas metro area, and another 650,000 live in metropolitan Reno.

In an at-large election involving multiple candidates, the winner may very well get two million votes. Someone has to finish in fourth place, and there's no certainty that the fourth-place finisher will get most of his or her votes from the two biggest cities. The second House district, which covers the northern half of the entire state, has about the same number of voters as any of the other three districts -- so a candidate from this area should easily be able to finish among the top four in a statewide election.

114 posted on 06/08/2023 9:23:56 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Alberta's Child

But in an at-large election, with four seats in play, does the voter pick one or four candidates?


115 posted on 06/08/2023 9:29:39 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Donald Tantrum? No Thank You. We Can Do Better! I am a Veteran Supporting Veteran DeSantis.)
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To: CTrent1564; Fury
A Republican who is with me 90% of the time is better than a DEM is is against me, 1 who is 80% of the time is better than a DEM who is always against me, a Republican, who is 70, 60% of the time, etc is better than a DEM who is always against me, etc.

That may have mattered in the past, but people have started to wise up to the cynical games these disingenuous A-holes play in Washington. A Republican who is with you 99% of the time is likely to stand against you the one time his vote actually matters.

See Rep. Thomas Massie as a perfect example of this. He is the conservative/libertarian Freedom Caucus icon who made a name for himself by standing up on principle and opposing government spending bills even if he was the only one on the losing end of a 420-1 vote in Congress. He also spent his career in Congress railing against endless government spending and crushing Federal debt.

Within the last couple of weeks he signed on to the House debt ceiling elimination bill. As one Freeper noted, he collapsed like a plastic Walmart lawn chair under Chris Christie.

We're tired of elected officials voting with their constituents 70% -- or even 99% -- of the time when their votes don't matter ... but then bailing out and showing their true colors when they are finally faced with a consequential issue where their vote really matters.

116 posted on 06/08/2023 9:31:17 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Reno89519
But in an at-large election, with four seats in play, does the voter pick one or four candidates?

That's a good question. I assumed each voter picks only ONE candidate. If each voter picks up to four candidates, then your concern about the big cities dominating a statewide race would be a valid one.

There's also an intriguing option where each voter is given four ballots and can pick up to four candidates, but can also opt to cast multiple votes for a candidate. Basically, a voter can vote for four different candidates, cast four votes for one candidate, or anything in between. I'm not sure that's a good idea, but it would definitely make things interesting and unpredictable.

117 posted on 06/08/2023 9:36:04 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

To reach this path, district 7 (taking up Birmingham interior, Montgomery area, and the whole of mid-west Alabama...the least populated area of the state, but about 70-percent black)....you’d water-down the black vote in district 7. I’d take a wild guess by any drawing...probably one-vote of the black vote would have to be dropped into the next district.

Some people believe the intent of the challenge is to create a pure-Birmingham-only district...having nothing to do with Selma or the mid-west part of the state.

The problem with this idea is that a lot of the population of Birmingham have drifted off to 20/30 miles outside of the city (they still work there). The city district they imagine simply doesn’t have the population base to support a Birmingham-only district.

If you talked of gerrymandering and then added up the angles of district 7....there’s probably over 300 angles/curves to it. This current design was set-up in 1993, and today....it’s a plus-14 percent deal on Democratic control. Carving anything off...lessens the control.


118 posted on 06/08/2023 10:03:06 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Only D justices vote consistently.


119 posted on 06/08/2023 10:06:50 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Alberta's Child
Re: 116 - A Republican who is with you 99% of the time is likely to stand against you the one time his vote actually matters.

Not sure what the solution is. Your message comes across as “you want it all” in regards to Republicans voting for the issues that are important to you. I wish they did. But that’s not how the US political system has ever worked. Short of a parliamentary system where snap elections can be called or prorogation of Parliament can be declared, or some sort of strongman government, the system we have works well. And the parties conform themselves to our current system.

120 posted on 06/09/2023 2:43:21 AM PDT by Fury
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