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BREAKING: Supreme Court rules Alabama to redraw congressional districts
Associated Press ^ | 6/8/2023 | Mark Sherman

Posted on 06/08/2023 8:06:57 AM PDT by mooncoin

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To: pepsionice

It’s garbage regardless of how they think they are supposed to do it. In fact, they should be told they have to district without Race, Color, or Religion in the stats. That should be what makes it illegal. They can look at party affiliation and voter registration, income, education level, etc...but the areas we are supposed to not discriminate against should be off limits.


61 posted on 06/08/2023 9:01:54 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Michael.SF.
Alabama is 25% black, yet only 5% of the registered voters.

Felony convictions will do that.

62 posted on 06/08/2023 9:03:53 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: Fury

No we have not read the opinion.

People are focused on what the effect of this will be which apparently will result in some more democratic districts.

But none of us have read the opinion or know what constitutional issues may have been involved in arriving at the decision.


63 posted on 06/08/2023 9:06:02 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Reno89519

There’s no requirement for House districts in the Constitution. When the country was founded, I believe most states had at-large House members. If your state had 10 House seats, then it would have one statewide election and the top 10 candidates in terms of vote totals would go to Washington.


64 posted on 06/08/2023 9:07:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: mooncoin

Insane. Lefthanders are about 10% of the population. Where are our 43 lefthander-majority seats?


65 posted on 06/08/2023 9:07:09 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: mooncoin

The Supreme Court acknowledges that blacks vote as a block and have their own interests, which must be constitutionally protected.

What about other groups? Immigrant vs natives. Asians. Different Asian groups. Hispanics. Gays. Those are just the immutable characteristics.

Why not mandate a parliament with national seats? That way spread out groups get their representatives, vote black, white, Brahmin, Libertarian, Green, vote 2nd Amendment party, whatever you want. Forget regional representation.


66 posted on 06/08/2023 9:15:32 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: CTrent1564
This really goes to show you how stupid it is to use race in any way to determine the constitutionality of a districting process.

If Alabama has 7 House seats and blacks are 25% of the population, then blacks are “underrepresented” with 1 seat and “overrepresented” with 2 seats. The math will never work unless Congress has at least 10,000 seats.

67 posted on 06/08/2023 9:21:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Drew68

That’s the spirit!


68 posted on 06/08/2023 9:21:49 AM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Alberta's Child

Very much could be. I don’t remember specifics but remember democrats were unhappy which was wonderful. Lol.


69 posted on 06/08/2023 9:24:20 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: for-q-clinton

I should point this out (I’m from 1970s era)....that prior to Reagan....the state was about 70-percent Democrat. After Reagan...a whole new landscape developed and it was closer to 55-to-60 percent Republican in just five years.

If you tried to go stir up pro-Democratic feelings in the state at present...it’s a problem unless you present yourself as a RINO (which is the general tradition of the state now).

Anyone thinking you can redesign the districts, and somehow carve off enough of the 7th district to convert of the remaining districts over....doesn’t grasp the changes of the past three decades in the state.


70 posted on 06/08/2023 9:26:19 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: mooncoin

those 2 districts could be diluted.

God willing


71 posted on 06/08/2023 9:27:25 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: Red Badger

I got screwed here in North Texas last year. My district now extends from Northwest Dallas County to Fort Worth. In the process, my congressman is now a Democrat, instead of Beth Van Duyne.


72 posted on 06/08/2023 9:28:18 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: mooncoin

Indeed time for black districts to show their worth or uselessness.

They have an option the race card is burned it on them alone.


73 posted on 06/08/2023 9:31:23 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: mooncoin

Looks like the Left’s media assault on the supreme Court is bearing fruit. Shame on Roberts and Kavanaugh.


74 posted on 06/08/2023 9:32:14 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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To: Alberta's Child

The downside to at-large seat, says that in Nevada’s example, all of the representatives would be picked by the world, Las Vegas, or Reno, other states would have the same challenge that metropolitan areas would choose all of the at large representatives


75 posted on 06/08/2023 9:35:23 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Donald Tantrum? No Thank You. We Can Do Better! I am a Veteran Supporting Veteran DeSantis.)
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To: Drew68

They just had a significant 2A case last term. Bruen has led to tons of laws being struck down by the lower courts.


76 posted on 06/08/2023 9:36:16 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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To: mooncoin

I am of the opinion that congressional districts should be drawn via a standard procedure / mapping.

Divide the number of citizens by the number of congressional districts allowed. Call this the district target

Start with the state capital and draw a circle with a center of the capital that extends far enough to encompass enough citizens to equal or just exceed the district target.

Do the same for the next largest county seat. Repeat until there are only two districts left. Divide the remaining map space into the remaining two districts.

Adjust the boundaries to align first with streets and roads, then by streams and water ways. Adjust each district no more than +/- 3% of the citizens within that district.


77 posted on 06/08/2023 9:36:47 AM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: for-q-clinton
I may need to become a racists

I actually read Ibram Kendi's book.

I came away with 3 things.

1) Kendi is a very troubled soul who should not be giving advice to anyone. He needs to work out his own demons first.

2) Color-blind is no longer acceptable to the race-baiting left. Kendi explicitly rejects ML King's "content of their character" ideas.

3) "Anti-racism" is racism.

78 posted on 06/08/2023 9:40:06 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: mbrfl

There’s no mechanism for that under the Constitution.


79 posted on 06/08/2023 9:50:08 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: napscoordinator; 17th Miss Regt
Alabama is 25% black, yet only 5% of the registered voter

I was not clear on that. It should have been:

Alabama is 25% black, yet only 5% of the registered voters are black.

If the blacks of Alabama want fair representation, they need to go out and vote to get blacks in office.

80 posted on 06/08/2023 9:50:10 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ( Biden-Fetterman in ‘24: It's a no brainer)
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