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Donald Trump Finally Shares How He Feels About the Debt Ceiling Deal
TownHall ^ | May 31, 2023 11:45 PM | Matt Vespa

Posted on 06/03/2023 9:43:25 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

The deal to raise the debt ceiling for two years to the tune of $4 trillion while minimally cutting spending passed the House, thanks to the Democratic Party support. More Democrats voted for the compromise than Republicans did, which we all saw coming, given the vocal opposition from the party's conservative wing. Even more damning were the allegations that the $4 trillion increase wasn’t a Democratic Party pitch but Speaker Kevin McCarthy's (R-CA) proposal. Yet, even on the Republican side of the aisle, you had staunch conservatives disagreeing. 

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), one of the most prominent spending hawks, voiced his approval of the legislation, whereas Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) vehemently opposed it. Massie’s stamp of approval was key as it assured passage through the House Rules Committee, which enabled the process of bringing this bill up for a floor vote. 

House okays debt ceiling bill 314-117

149 Republicans voted yea
165 Democrats voted yea.

So there were more Democratic yeas even though they are in the minority— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) June 1, 2023


B) 149 GOPers voted yea
165 Dems voted yea

71 GOPers voted no
46 Dems voted no

2 Dems missed the vote
2 GOPers missed the vote— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) June 1, 2023

As Spencer wrote, at 314-117, the deal passed. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) voiced his support for the bill. Still, the fact it was passed without majority Republican Party support guarantees a motion to vacate could be considered by House conservatives. If successful, it could take the gavel away from Mr. McCarthy.

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries says he will support debt ceiling bill "without hesitation, reservation or trepidation."

"Not because it's perfect. But in divided government, we, of course, cannot allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good." https://t.co/ODQ1safMcq pic.twitter.com/d1VEC9zZd2— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) May 31, 2023

Well, have no fear, establishment media, Trump has spoken about the deal, and he's not too pleased with it (via WaPo) [emphasis mine]: 

Most Republican presidential candidates are panning the deal negotiated by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) to suspend the debt ceiling, including the GOP front-runner, former president Donald Trump, who said he would have allowed the country to default. 

“Well, it is what it is, it was going to pass,” Trump told Des Moines 1040 WHO radio host Simon Conway, adding that “we’ll get it fixed and will get it fixed properly in two years.” Asked about his recent CNN town hall comments about letting a default happen, he said, “I would have done that.” 

[…]

During the CNN town hall event earlier this month, Trump argued that Republicans should use the deal ceiling as leverage to roll back many of Biden’s spending priorities.

“If they don’t, … you’ll have to default,” Trump said. He suggested the consequences of a default could lead to “a bad week or a bad day.” 

During Trump’s presidency, the debt ceiling was raised three times by Congress without any preconditions. 

[…] 

Until Wednesday, Trump had been publicly silent since the contours of the deal became public Saturday — and had drawn criticism from some GOP presidential rivals for that. 

Look, it’s not the best bill by any stretch. We’re also not out of the woods here since it heads to the Democratic-controlled Senate, where progressives aren’t happy with the legislation. Then again, will they torpedo the whole package and deny Joe Biden a legislative win? This isn’t over yet.



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To: srmanuel
You really think there was a $236B surplus in any year during the Clinton administration -- when the Federal budget never exceeded $2T? That's simply not possible.

If there were any surplus of that magnitude, then why didn't the Federal debt drop accordingly?

Federal Debt 1966 to Present

81 posted on 06/03/2023 1:11:00 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: joesbucks
While cute, your comment isn’t to be taken seriously.

We live it clown world now. Everything is possible.

82 posted on 06/03/2023 1:11:41 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Casey DeSantis? No thanks. I've already voted for too many Bushes.)
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To: srmanuel
There is absolutely NO comparison between President Trump and this little tart. Miss McErney would never be on the foxes had she NOT been White House press secretary ...

There was a time it was considered ‘immoral’ for the media to contribute air time without charge for a democrat candidate ... what is it about catholics who never have a line they will not cross.... godfather Biden is the US head catholic ... yet the so called good catholic NEVER EVER say a disparaging word against him ...

So I get it ... catholic fox is going to support catholic saint Desantis ... morals be damned

83 posted on 06/03/2023 1:11:43 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: srmanuel

P.S. — Any “surplus” you saw back then wasn’t the result of sound fiscal policy. It was directly attributed to a short-term burst in income tax revenue after the Roth IRA was established in 1997 and millions of Americans converted traditional IRAs to Roth IRAs — which required them to pay income taxes on their prior IRA contributions that had been tax-deferred.


84 posted on 06/03/2023 1:13:47 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: Alberta's Child

Duck and Dive all you want, you said the budget had never been in surplus in your lifetime, which would make you less than 30 years old.

Clearly it was in surplus under Clinton, even if gimmicks were used, they would not work today because the deficit is so large and the budget has a deficit bias built in.


85 posted on 06/03/2023 1:16:41 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Just mythoughts

Thanks for the response, you’ve confirmed everything I suspected about Trump sycophants.


86 posted on 06/03/2023 1:19:18 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: SoConPubbie

Pretty weak. Trump has never been considered a fiscal conservative and his record reflects that. Trump would best be served by discovering the best way to create economic prosperity and to eliminate the deep state is by defunding and shuttering massive portions of government. I still support Trump, no one else has proposed what I just wrote. Maybe when we are $50 Trillion in debt in a few years the idea will occur.


87 posted on 06/03/2023 1:24:14 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?s" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: srmanuel

Yeah he looks bad on this. DeSantis called out this betrayal immediately. Trump should have said something when it would have mattered.


88 posted on 06/03/2023 2:02:31 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: gibsonguy

if Trump was mad at her for something she did, why not call her up and discuss the issue instead of going on social media and trashing someone who did a really good job as press secretary under some very trying circumstances.


89 posted on 06/03/2023 2:07:08 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Golden Eagle

You Trump haters ruin each thread with your Trump hate - all it does is annoy people and they move on to another thread you haven’t ruined yet. You’re not convincing anybody…


90 posted on 06/03/2023 3:18:01 PM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: enumerated

Oh of course we’re not convincing any of the Trump die hards here. As Trump himself said, he could shoot somebody right on 5th avenue in the middle of the day, and some of you would still support him. But there are others, who are listening, and quietly making their way off the Trump train.

What I can tell you for sure, is, once you do finally leave Trump, it’s like the red pill all over again, and there is NO going back after that. So if anyone ought to put a sock in it, it’s those of you trying to lure people back. Leaving Trump is like breaking some horrible addiction, and you just want to make sure you not fall back into it again, no matter what.


91 posted on 06/03/2023 3:24:48 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
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To: AuntB

Then no budget. Play hardball


92 posted on 06/03/2023 3:39:42 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: srmanuel
"Since when has Trump shown any public deference to anyone when the subject was important to him ???
Trump was a marvelously good President even though he surrounded himself with flattering backstabbers. That is, until the COVID challenge arose. He's been wrong on practically everything since and has acted like a petulant child. Nevertheless, I will vote for him if he wins the primary because the alternative is so horrible, but he has lost me (and probably many others) bit by bit in the last few months. I shake my head; how could he be so stupid?
93 posted on 06/03/2023 5:04:25 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Golden Eagle

“As Trump himself said, he could shoot somebody right on 5th avenue in the middle of the day, and some of you would still support him.”

That’s another oft-repeated lie from 2016. The guy who actually said that was a Trump-hating reporter. Soon after, at a rally, Trump jokingly quoted the guy - and we all laughed at the absurdity of it..

Get your facts straight


94 posted on 06/03/2023 5:23:38 PM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: enumerated

He said it all right - whether it came from someone else originally or not. He said it with PRIDE. And it’s probably true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCq66Mi4hAE


95 posted on 06/03/2023 5:45:47 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
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To: Hiddigeigei

I agree with you I’ve said repeatedly I would happily vote for Trump if he wins the nomination and the same goes for DeSantis

Trump is not doing dumb things, that’s who he is, you don’t trash your press secretary who did a really good job for you so a perceived slight and let people like Kevin McCarthy off the hook over the bad deal he negotiated especially after supporting him for the job

Go down the list of all the terrible people he put into jobs, they rarely if ever get criticized by Trump but a press secretary gets savaged for basically nothing, the bad hires he would have to own not so with the press secretary

Has Trump been as critical of Fauci as he has been about Kayleigh McEnany and who did far more damage to Trump and the country


96 posted on 06/03/2023 10:57:20 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Golden Eagle

Duh.

I remember the moment well - I was one of the people laughing outrageously when he told that story.

That’s not pride - that’s contempt for the fake news that he was mocking.

You obviously don’t understand Trump - you don’t understand his supporters - you don’t get his jokes because you are the brunt of them.

Get a clue.


97 posted on 06/04/2023 7:29:14 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: Golden Eagle
A long time ago, I was out on open water at one of them Caribbean islands, on a small one person sailboat. No rudder, just the sail to control direction.

It had a keel, that fits through from the top of the boat and extends out the bottom.

I pulled it out to see what would happen, and the boat went with the breeze, regardless of what I did with the sail.

Only when I replaced the keel board back into it's slot did I regain steering control with he sail, and was able to tack back to shore.

98 posted on 06/04/2023 7:55:30 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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