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I Wouldn't Encourage Anyone To Join': As Pentagon Goes Woke, Veterans Refuse To Help Military Recruitment Efforts
DC Enquirer ^ | 05.08.2023 | Ilan Hulkower

Posted on 05/08/2023 2:15:01 PM PDT by grimalkin

Veterans of the United States military are refusing to help out with efforts to relieve the Pentagon's acute recruitment problems citing the wokeness problem embedded in the current military structure as their reason to not get involved.

As reported by Just The News, the military has a major recruitment problem among Americans, however, that by itself is not exactly a new development. As previously noted by the DC Enquirer, while obesity rates are an external problem for the military force, wokeness poses an internal problem within the armed forces. The vast majority of Americans from the 17-24 demographic are, according to a Department of Defense study, unfit for military services - primarily due to obesity rates among that demographic.

The Heritage Foundation's Director of the Center for National Defense, Thomas Spoehr, proclaimed that "Woke ideology undermines military readiness in various ways. It undermines cohesiveness by emphasizing differences based on race, ethnicity, and sex. It undermines leadership authority by introducing questions about whether promotion is based on merit or quota requirements."

A lot of other military veterans like Spoehr have similarly weighed into the problem of wokeness in the armed forces.

Many veterans did not react as expected after the Navy Times published an article titled "Veterans may be key to solving the US military recruitment crisis" which called for veterans to be "deeply engaged at all levels of the recruitment process, modeling how meaningful a life of service can be." The Military Times wrote that in the aftermath of that article in Navy Times, the former outlet "was inundated with hundreds of emails from veterans saying they would do no such thing." Why? Most of those emails cited in one form or another wokeness.

Some of those reactions are captured in the citations below from military veterans.

Peter Demas, a third-generation veteran, wrote that "I wouldn’t encourage anyone to join today’s armed forces and I discouraged both of my sons from considering serving...America’s military leaders have sold out the Services for their own advancement and reflect all the poorest qualities of civilian ‘leadership’ from whom they accepted thirty pieces of silver; instead of being the nation’s repository of integrity and moral courage, they have become more political than the political animals they grovel before."

Dale Papworth, a retired Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, wrote that "[w]ith a woke military, whose most senior officer is concerned about ‘white rage,’ searching for a tattle tale process to discover and discharge white ‘extremists,’ blaming it on toxic masculinity, discharging real warriors for not getting vaccinated, having a two-day stand down to discuss white extremism, the promotion and expansion of women in combat, lowering physical fitness standards to accommodate naturally weaker women, recruiting with social justice and diversity ads, stating we need more female and minority pilots, promotions based on the color of one’s skin or genitalia, lowering recruiting standards, blaming the military for 247 years of institutional racism, is not the military I was in for 26 years."

One individual named Adam wrote that "My 19-year-old has expressed in no uncertain terms he does not want to serve in the U.S. military in any capacity...the politicization of our [government] institutions is creeping into the services now, and that is also having an effect. They may as well put out a sign that conservative or right of center Americans are not welcome. They just keep making it worse with their messaging. Boys want to be challenged and go on adventures, not be schooled on pronouns or the sins of their skin color. Girls want to beat boys and prove themselves."

The response by the Pentagon to these concerns seems to be a doubling down of the woke ideology in the military. Evidentially, the brass and/or the politicians think that drag queen influencers will help drive recruitment numbers.

When Representative Matt Gaetz (R-FL) pointed out that drag queen shows appeared to be a funded event on military bases, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, responded by saying, "I'd like to take a look at those, because I don't agree with those. I think those things shouldn't be happening." A lot of veterans seem to concur.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chat; homosexualagenda; military; recruitment; tranny; veterans; woke; wokeism
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Love to send a few Freepers to Ukraine.


21 posted on 05/08/2023 2:47:02 PM PDT by Right Brother (Democrats are 💩)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I’ve encouraged 3 sons not to go die for the neocons in ukraine.

I never encouraged my son to go in. He went into the USAF, so he could learn to fly, without paying for it. If they didn’t offer to send him to pilot training, he wouldn’t have gone in at all.
I wonder what will happen, when they bring back the draft? I figure the rioting will be worse than the Vietnam riots.

22 posted on 05/08/2023 2:58:00 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: grimalkin

modeling how meaningful a life of service can be once was before the wokesters took over.

Get some real leadership if you want recruitment back.

23 posted on 05/08/2023 2:59:07 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: grimalkin

The military needs the wokies. Should martial law be declared they won’t hesitate to shoot at citizens they perceive to be a threat. (And guesse who those will be?)


24 posted on 05/08/2023 2:59:35 PM PDT by The_Harlequin (…the time will arrive when you will learn to judge for yourself of what is going on in the world, wi)
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To: jimwatx
I was on active duty from 76-84. I loved my time and my sons and nephews heard a few of my stories. Now, I dissuade as many as I can from joining the military.

Back then, I knew my senior leaders had my back, and they proved it to me. When the Army goes back to that, and allows the chain of command to work, then I might change my mind.

I’ll never forget the day BG Archie Cannon stood up for me. At the out briefing of a Nuclear Surety Inspection, the Evaluation Team Chief pointedly disparaged my performance as the Augmentation Reserve Commander, for having my soldiers arrive late. In fact, we made our mission time 30 minutes EARLY.

I knew my job, and I was combative in those situations. I told him I gave my soldiers extra training to ensure they would succeed. They were air defenders, not infantrymen.

When the inspection team left, BG Cannon strode to the podium, found me in the audience, and pointed at me: “Lieutenant, I’ll take that hit for you. Anytime you want to give your soldiers extra training, you have my express permission.

I thought that was pretty cool.

25 posted on 05/08/2023 3:03:48 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: grimalkin
I don't think the goal is to create a Woke military. I think the goal is to destroy the military using Wokeness as a ruse.
26 posted on 05/08/2023 3:04:45 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”)
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To: grimalkin

That is great to hear. I strongly recommend young people (those I care about) to avoid today’s military like the plague.


27 posted on 05/08/2023 3:04:49 PM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: Codeflier

I tell anyone who will listen, not to let their children sign up with today’s military,
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Good advice. As a vet, I encouraged my teens to join the military, but since Senile Joe, I have “ outlawed” them even thinking about it. When senile Joe forced our Military to get jabbed with ineffective and dangerous jabs I turned up my influence ( school, church, work, parades, etc) , now with senile Joes Ukie War I am on a crusade.

I can say I have made a big difference, perhaps two dozen? ( at least one dozen confirmed) teenagers now will have nothing to do with this immoral, corrupted administration.

Being teens, I am gladly giving information on how NOT to be drafted ( many ways) which is I feel is coming.

I am a simple Patriot, doing my duty.


28 posted on 05/08/2023 3:06:29 PM PDT by delta7
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To: 11th_VA

“....do you want your son or grandson to [undergo major surgery] by someone who was NOT [appointed to that positon] based on their [surgical skills rather than having been granted their medical degree as part of some med school’s equity program]...? I don’t..

There...!! fixed that.......!!


29 posted on 05/08/2023 3:08:11 PM PDT by TokarevM57
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To: grimalkin
The response by the Pentagon to these concerns seems to be a doubling down of the woke ideology in the military.

The cultural rot in America's armed forces is so deep it may never recover. Oliver Cromwell and Leon Trotsky eventually had to build new armies from scratch. The existing structures were too dysfunctional. A revolutionary leader in the United States, or whatever it transforms to, may have to do the same.

30 posted on 05/08/2023 3:09:10 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: grimalkin

They can just recruit out of the millions of young military-aged invaders coming across the border. They’re more fit for the military than the effete legions of sexually confused Gen-Zers.


31 posted on 05/08/2023 3:09:29 PM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: grimalkin

Actually, I thought “what are you searching for” was a thematic phrase for the headline. Because after all.. what is the military searching for?


32 posted on 05/08/2023 3:12:13 PM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: grimalkin

Only fight for what is right.

Don’t be cannon fodder for Biden & his pervert masters.


33 posted on 05/08/2023 3:12:36 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: ScottinVA

....yes, but think of the untold legions of translators of countless languages that would also need to be recruited...how would a drill instructor shout “Ah-TEN-SHUN!!” in Mandarin or Farsi or Arabic or Urdu or whatever....it boggles the mind....


34 posted on 05/08/2023 3:13:19 PM PDT by TokarevM57
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To: grimalkin
Until the outright treason is dealt with, recruitment will continue to be a serious problem.

Who wants to sign up be cannon fodder for the woke division of the CCP's military?

35 posted on 05/08/2023 3:14:23 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. Never be a peaceful slave in a new Socialist America)
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To: The_Harlequin

I grew up a teen in the early years of the Reagan admin. I was all gungho for his big military buildup and wanted to join the Navy in 85 but could not score well enough for an ROTC scholarship then a few years later had medical issues so enlisting wasn’t even an option then.

As of today, my view is completely the opposite. I figure the fewer people their are in our military today, especially with changing demographics and the flaming idiot leftists we have in both our government AND our military, that’s just that many fewer woke soldiers our government has to use against our own people.

That is just how bad I see it these days.


36 posted on 05/08/2023 3:14:27 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: hardspunned

the lawsuits will be epic as women are expected to draft and cannot be overlooked.

you think your woke daughter gets to stay home over my son?

forgetaboutit


37 posted on 05/08/2023 3:14:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearhheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Active duty/Retiree ping.

I’m glad I retired when I did. It’s not getting any better.


38 posted on 05/08/2023 3:15:34 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: nonliberal

Correct.

The goal is to fill it with people who hate you.

Or who just follow orders, with no moral compass.

Hitler destroyed and rebuilt his military in much the same manner.


39 posted on 05/08/2023 3:18:49 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: grimalkin

We have a Navy tradition in my family. My son was thinking of joining. I talked him out of it


40 posted on 05/08/2023 3:20:32 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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