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Bye-bye blue flame? NY to require gas-free new buildings
The Associated Press ^ | May 2, 2023 | By MICHAEL HILL

Posted on 05/02/2023 3:21:51 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York state is banning natural gas stoves and heating systems in most new buildings, a policy that’s part of a national movement aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

The law negotiated by Gov. Kathy Hochul and her fellow Democrats in the Legislature is part of the state budget and puts New York in the forefront of states targeting emissions from buildings. When the phase-in starts in 2026, newly constructed buildings will have to forego fossil fuel equipment in favor of devices like induction ranges and heat pumps that run on electricity.

The state mandate applies only to new construction and does not affect existing buildings.

Government efforts to wean society off of fossil fuel-burning equipment — especially gas stoves — have been slammed by Republican officials and other opponents as heavy-handed infringements on consumer choice. But environmentalists say climate goals can’t be reached without addressing homes and businesses.

The new construction mandate avoids — at least for now — the more politically fraught issue of replacing existing fossil fuel equipment. But critics say it will add costs to new construction and put more strain on the electrical grid, while still limiting options for buyers of newly constructed homes.

“Why shouldn’t people have a choice on how to heat their home?” asked Republican Assemblyman Phil Palmesano.

The measure will prohibit the installation of fossil-fuel equipment in new buildings, starting in 2026 for structures of seven stories or less. The ban for larger buildings starts in 2029.

There are number of exemptions, such as for emergency backup power and for commercial food establishments, laboratories and car washes.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: blueflame; climate; deathofthewest; democrats; gas; gasstoves; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hoax; marxists; newyork; nutcasesincharge; postrealityworld; propaganda; ruledbyretards; socialism
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Here’s how all that new, needed electricity will be generated.
It’s the only realistic option. The libs will allow no others.


21 posted on 05/02/2023 3:47:35 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There appears to be no limit to what the state can mandate.


22 posted on 05/02/2023 3:49:35 PM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Right, and how is the power grid supposed to handle all those new electric appliances?


23 posted on 05/02/2023 3:50:02 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Hold on tight to your dream)
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To: frank ballenger

CA will beat all states to the bottom with with a ban on diesel trucks and trains by 2037.


24 posted on 05/02/2023 3:51:13 PM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This war against natural gas is ridiculous.


25 posted on 05/02/2023 3:52:20 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: cuban leaf

https://www.foxnews.com/media/gop-meltdown-gas-stoves-proves-addicted-conspiracies-bad-bathtub-meth-msnbc-analyst
But if you think it’s a problem, according to MSDNC you are addicted to bad bathtub meth. I guess there are different qualities of meth, MSDNC seems to know the difference between good meth and bad meth, because they are very smart . And the ban isn’t just gas stoves, it’s heat as well so they can laugh when you freeze to death and call you a meth addict . And if you use electric heat the electricity becomes from a power plant burning…….
GAS


26 posted on 05/02/2023 3:53:04 PM PDT by brookwood (To acheive equity, the percentage of whites in prison must equal the percentage of blacks in prison)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A national movement my ass.
It’s a Fascist government movement.
Congress squashed Biden’s attempt.


27 posted on 05/02/2023 3:54:29 PM PDT by DeWalt (Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Critics say it will add costs to new construction and put more strain on the electrical grid, while still limiting options for buyers of newly constructed homes.”

What do those silly “critics” know? If we just ban every fossil fuel, we’ll protect the climate. Those critics are just a bunch of Chicken Littles. Those criticisms listed above are just nuts. None of those things are true!


28 posted on 05/02/2023 3:54:45 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else…)
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To: popdonnelly

It is basically a war against sanity. And the crazies might be winning.


29 posted on 05/02/2023 3:54:48 PM PDT by Leep (Hillary will NEVER be president! 😁)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Then when additional high voltage transmission lines are required to service what would have been nat-gas consumers, they’ll try to stop those.

NB: Nat-gas pipelines can be buried, 220kv electric lines can’t be.


30 posted on 05/02/2023 3:57:40 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: artichokegrower

You did the legwork. I was just going to say remember how the media kept telling us we were out of our minds and right wing fanatics for bringing up the fact that they said they were going to eliminate all gas stoves.


31 posted on 05/02/2023 4:00:47 PM PDT by freefdny
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What about boilers for hospitals and the like?


32 posted on 05/02/2023 4:02:23 PM PDT by waterhill (Biden and most dems are foreign agents.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“But environmentalists say climate goals can’t be reached without addressing homes and businesses.”

By stripping people of their freedom, you mean. And you still won’t reach your goal since this climate change garbage is a scam of yours.


33 posted on 05/02/2023 4:05:13 PM PDT by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Excluding state, federal, and city buildings of course.


34 posted on 05/02/2023 4:05:31 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) We're all Women now.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I wonder if ‘commercial food establishments’ includes restaurants. The fancy New Yorkers aren’t going to like giving up their fancy restaurant food. (Most competent chefs greatly appreciate their gas stoves...)


35 posted on 05/02/2023 4:06:37 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Shady

When is NY going to ban the large office buildings who burn waste paper by the ton at 4am to 5am every morning? In Manhattan they all burn their paper waste when no one can see the smoke.


36 posted on 05/02/2023 4:07:41 PM PDT by chopperk ( )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Next up..Complete Nationalization of the US Energy Industry, incl. gas, oil, solar, wind, etc. and Complete Nationalization of the US Electric Grid.
37 posted on 05/02/2023 4:07:49 PM PDT by jpp113
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To: waterhill
That's their solution to the requirement for licensed boiler operators to be on site. The test to get your license is one of the most difficult tests I've ever taken. There are no qualified trades people anymore.

Eliminate gas and you solve many infrastructure problems.

38 posted on 05/02/2023 4:09:16 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) We're all Women now.)
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To: BitWielder1

Natural gas is the cleanest “fossil” fuel there is.

Only Hydrogen would be “cleaner”


The only byproduct of a hydrogen-based “fuel” system will be dihydrogen monoxide, which is the most abundant and plentiful greenhouse gas in the atmosphere by several orders of magnitude.


39 posted on 05/02/2023 4:16:09 PM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“ There are number of exemptions, such as for emergency backup power and for commercial food establishments, laboratories and car washes.”

And there it is.


40 posted on 05/02/2023 4:16:35 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (America is now Nazi Germany circa 1935. )
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