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Military Moves to Cut Suicides, But Defers Action on Guns
Military.com ^ | March 16, 2023 | Tara Copp and Lolita C. Baldor, Associated Presstitutes

Posted on 03/17/2023 3:52:34 PM PDT by Navy Patriot

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin ordered a number of improvements in access to mental health care on Thursday to reduce suicides in the military, but held off on endorsing more controversial recommendations to restrict gun and ammunition purchases by young troops, sending them to another panel for study.

An independent committee in late February recommended that the Defense Department implement a series of gun safety measures, including waiting periods for the purchase of firearms and ammunition by service members on military property and raising the minimum age for service members to buy guns and ammunition to 25.

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His orders reflect increasing concerns about suicides in the military, despite more than a decade of programs and other efforts to prevent them...

(Excerpt) Read more at military.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; firearms; military; rkba
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1 posted on 03/17/2023 3:52:34 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

Cut out that CRT ‘hate Whitey’ B.S. and stop worhipping and pandering to all things LGBT***.


2 posted on 03/17/2023 3:56:15 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Navy Patriot

Bbbbbbut only the police and military should have guns.


3 posted on 03/17/2023 4:01:09 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Almost useless. On my tour in the 70s with the 2ID, we had two suicides. Both personnel used guns and ammunition they had been issued while on guard duty.


4 posted on 03/17/2023 4:02:21 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Navy Patriot
held off on endorsing more controversial recommendations to restrict gun and ammunition purchases by young troops, sending them to another panel for study.

Seems like Lloyd was losing some sleep over this one. Afraid of being fragged Lloyd, huh?

5 posted on 03/17/2023 4:03:10 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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6 posted on 03/17/2023 4:03:30 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Navy Patriot

They’ve go to to get those guns out of the military.

It’s the only way to prevent deaths.

Wait, what’s the military for again? Diversity? Inclusion?


7 posted on 03/17/2023 4:11:57 PM PDT by seowulf ("Thou art but a poor soul laden with a lifeless body." ---Epictetus)
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To: Navy Patriot

When you join the US Armed Forces you relinquish at least a few rights that you had before you enlisted.I’m probably in the minority here on FR but I’m inclined to support a reg forbidding gun ownership on a military installation. Yes,it’s crazy in a way,but....


8 posted on 03/17/2023 4:19:31 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: Navy Patriot

First thing VA asks is “do you want to hurt yourself or somebody else?”
If I wanted to either of those I would not be there for my yearly physical or what ever.
I’m pretty sure I was instructed how to kill other people and not myself.

I really appreciate the improvements in VA care in the last few years.


9 posted on 03/17/2023 4:20:31 PM PDT by rellic
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To: Gay State Conservative
We didn't seem to have any trouble in Submarines.

We had private firearms everywhere, WestPac Deployment, Home Port Training, yards, drydock, Japan, Hong Kong, Philippines, New Zealand, Australia (when they were Nations).

Must be a new thing.

10 posted on 03/17/2023 4:31:37 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: rellic

While I disagree with the VA’s use of language, thanks to President Trump, they are trying to heal and serve Veterans now, and I am grateful.


11 posted on 03/17/2023 4:35:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: rellic

Volunteered at Walter Reed during the Afghan war on the amputation war.

My respect for our military went through the roof and will NEVER come down.

The best part was the “grads” coming to visit, strutting down the halls with their prosthetics proudly exposed.

They would go talk to guys who were totally devastated at the lost of their body parts (Who wouldn’t be?)

As they were talking to them they would say “We gotta go soon. We’re going wind surfing on the Chesapeake Bay. Next year you our coming with us.”

They made an amazing difference!!

But we are trading social media for daily social interaction. (Live in a neighborhood with tons of kids. Only see them on the bus stop and Halloween, but NEVER playing outside.)

Ain’t gonna end well.


12 posted on 03/17/2023 4:50:35 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: Navy Patriot

The military needs to ban guns among soldiers. They are icky and dangerous!


13 posted on 03/17/2023 6:03:51 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Navy Patriot

Pretty soon we are going to have a military without guns.


14 posted on 03/17/2023 6:24:02 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Lessee…at age 24, I was trained, evaluated and certified by the Air Force to launch many ICBMs with big booms on top but wouldn’t be able to buy a Ruger 10/22 .22LR rifle at the base exchange??


15 posted on 03/17/2023 6:31:44 PM PDT by Skybird
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To: Navy Patriot

I see what the left is trying to do here:
“If our military people cannot own guns until they are 25 then surely no civilian should be allowed to own guns.”


16 posted on 03/17/2023 6:52:31 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Skybird
Lessee…at age 24, I was trained, evaluated and certified by the Air Force to launch many ICBMs with big booms on top but wouldn’t be able to buy a Ruger 10/22 .22LR rifle at the base exchange??

I was that at the age of 18 on Titan II crew. Our BX didn't sell firearms and couldn't even order them. I bough mine downtown.

17 posted on 03/17/2023 8:08:54 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Navy Patriot
So a 22 year old armor platoon leader signed for four Abrams tanks with 120mm main guns, four M2 .50BMGs, and eight M240 machine guns can't own a .22?

Yeah, this will do wonders for recruiting.

18 posted on 03/17/2023 8:14:50 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Gay State Conservative
When you join the US Armed Forces you relinquish at least a few rights that you had before you enlisted.I’m probably in the minority here on FR but I’m inclined to support a reg forbidding gun ownership on a military installation. Yes,it’s crazy in a way,but....

So of course, when there's a shooting on base, no one's able to defend themselves, just like a school. Fish in a barrel. Maj Hassan (?) already figured that one out...

Federal military installations already prohibit gun possession on base. If you're active duty stationed there, you can sometimes check private arms in with the MP station, but no one's allowed to carry them around the base. NG stuff varies, but at least here in TX we're allowed to carry on State property, just not when going to federal places (like Ft Hood or Reserve bases).

And how do you enforce a ban on servicemembers up to 25? If regular Joe can go buy stuff at 18, how is DoD going to make every gun shop owner verify if someone young-looking is in the military before (not) selling to them? It's not like you're locked down on base until you turn 25, and no gun shop is going to check if you're over 25 because they checked if you were in the military. Hell, some States (like TX) even allow you to get your CHL at 18 (instead of 21) if you're in the military!
19 posted on 03/19/2023 8:06:39 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

...how is DoD going to make every gun shop owner verify if someone young-looking is in the military before (not) selling to them?
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They’ll have the ATF change the Form 4473 to add a question, “Are you a member of the military?”


20 posted on 03/20/2023 11:46:34 AM PDT by Skybird
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