Posted on 02/20/2023 4:57:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind
The White House's John Kirby — who seems to work as a pinch hitter on tough briefing days for Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre as much as he does his day job as the National Security Council's Coordinator for Strategic Communications — hit the airwaves on Sunday and renewed strong denials of any U.S. involvement in the sabotage of Russia's Nord Stream pipeline.
Appearing on Fox News Sunday, Kirby was asked by host Shannon Bream about a report by award-winning journalist Seymour Hersch that Townhall covered in early February. As Leah reported when the story first ran:
A bombshell report by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersch alleges specialized U.S. Navy diving teams were responsible for blowing up the underwater Nord Stream pipelines that supplied Russian gas to Western Europe...While the Biden administration initially blamed Russia for sabotaging their own pipeline, suspicions were raised about possible U.S. involvement after the president himself vowed that "we will bring an end" to the Nord Stream 2 if Russia invades Ukraine. Asked by a reporter how that would be possible, pointing out that it was in Germany's control, the commander in chief replied, "I promise you we will be able to do it."
So, the threats were there, the claims of ability were there, but the Biden administration said the United States didn't blow the pipelines. Usually, that would be a "nuff said" situation and the White House would be able to move on. But Bream raised the story again, plus its sources that include someone with "direct knowledge of the process," and Biden's previous statements about being "able to" bring an end to Nord Stream if the U.S. wanted to cut off Russia's stream of oil to other countries.
But Kirby wasn't having any of it. "It's a completely false story," Kirby said before reiterating the same thing several times. "There is no truth to it, Shannon — not a shred of it — it is not true. The United States, and no proxies of the United States, had anything to do with that," he continued. "Nothing."
Bream then asked Kirby whether President Biden would be obligated to notify Congress before taking such an action, but Kirby again hit the denials without, curiously, actually answering the question.
"We did not take any such operation, Shannon, and obviously we keep Congress informed appropriately of things — both classified and unclassified — but I can tell you now, regardless of the notification process, there was no U.S. involvement in this," Kirby emphasized. "None. Zero. It's completely false," he said again of Hersch's story.
But would Biden need to let Congress know before he took action to sabotage another country's infrastructure? Kirby, for whatever reason, declined to answer.
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NSC spokesperson John Kirby claims the Seymour Hersh story alleging the US blew up the Nord Stream pipeline is not true.
"It's a completely false story. There is no truth to it, Shannon. Not a shred of it. It is not true." pic.twitter.com/KqwUNPyMLc— Wendell Husebø (@WendellHusebo) February 19, 2023
Neither. Neither is trustworthy.
I will go with MonkeyWerx.
I could easily believe that Biden and Co. did this simply because it fits the pattern AND he said they would do it. They continue to deny it but the higher up the chain you move the more tepid the denials appear to me.
Hersch had a LOT of specifics in his article and even more specifics in interviews that I watched so I don’t think he is making something up. He is pretty dismissive about the denials even if he still always bashes Trump.
Who to believe.........
RE: Neither. Neither is trustworthy.
What’s the result then?
These are the only possibilities:
1) The US government did not do it ( RESULT: Believe the White House )
2) The US government did it (RESULT: Believe Seymour Hersch )
What other possibilities are there not covered by 1 and 2?
It was the US but certain people in the White House are kept out of the loop.
Neocons: Iraq has WMD’s. Lied.
Neolib Obama administration no proof given Gaddafi was going to kill 10k of his own people before he had NATO break their charter and offensively attack Libya.
Clinton admn: Serbs are committing genocide. Hyped numbers.
Mr. Hersh is credited with breaking:
1. My Lai Massacre. Gov caught lying.
2. He pushed along the Watergate story, government saud it was a lie.
3. Abu Graib. Government lied.
Clapper lied
Etc, etc, etc, Ad Infinitum.
Eco-terrorism.
Somebody pointed out in the last couple of days that a ship Hersch has participating in this dastardly deed was decommissioned long ago and may by now have been cut up for scrap.
The question of guilt is still open, but Seymour has definitely passed his “sell-by” date.
“What other possibilities are there not covered by 1 and 2?”
Well I can think of a lot..
Maybe a Russian faction did it.
Maybe Soros did it (I assign this a high probability)
But I also tend to believe the US gov’t was involved and approved
but still no actual proof, correct?
btw, I notice that the people pushing this unproven theory so strongly are the America-haters ...
I believe Hersch ONLY until Joey Crappy Pants PROVES otherwise. Joey is a serial liar, pervert, pedophile, plagiarist, etc.
Joey did it.
Still no one above the ‘Spokesman’ level denying that we blew up the pipeline, or at least had a hand in it.
Interesting. Also interesting is that US Reporters REFUSE to ask higher-ups about it...seems to me that if they’re not asked, then they don’t need to lie - works out good for them.
Of course the problem is in Europe, where people aren’t too hot about seeing the US intentionally destroy their only reliable source of cheap energy. They’re now asking questions, at least since the Hersch article came out.
Not surprised to see you here deflecting from what Obama, Bush, Clinton, Clapper, etc, did as it’s par for the course for DC.
I notice the people doing that support neolibs, neocons, Obama, Clinton, Biden, etc.
So we expeect Biden to see....Yes we did it. It was the right thing to do.
What other possibilities are there not covered by 1 and 2?
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A third and very obvious one, namely that the U.S. did do it but the Delaware Dunce hasn’t been informed of that, and for good reasons. It’s called plausible deniability!
RE: A third and very obvious one, namely that the U.S. did do it but the Delaware Dunce hasn’t been informed of that, and for good reasons
That’s still covered by possibility number 2.
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