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White House Again Denies Any U.S. Role in Nord Stream Pipeline Sabotage: Who to believe, the government or Seymour Hersch ?
Townhall ^ | 02/20/2023 | Spencer Brown

Posted on 02/20/2023 4:57:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The White House's John Kirby — who seems to work as a pinch hitter on tough briefing days for Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre as much as he does his day job as the National Security Council's Coordinator for Strategic Communications — hit the airwaves on Sunday and renewed strong denials of any U.S. involvement in the sabotage of Russia's Nord Stream pipeline.

Appearing on Fox News Sunday, Kirby was asked by host Shannon Bream about a report by award-winning journalist Seymour Hersch that Townhall covered in early February. As Leah reported when the story first ran:

A bombshell report by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersch alleges specialized U.S. Navy diving teams were responsible for blowing up the underwater Nord Stream pipelines that supplied Russian gas to Western Europe...

While the Biden administration initially blamed Russia for sabotaging their own pipeline, suspicions were raised about possible U.S. involvement after the president himself vowed that "we will bring an end" to the Nord Stream 2 if Russia invades Ukraine. Asked by a reporter how that would be possible, pointing out that it was in Germany's control, the commander in chief replied, "I promise you we will be able to do it."

So, the threats were there, the claims of ability were there, but the Biden administration said the United States didn't blow the pipelines. Usually, that would be a "nuff said" situation and the White House would be able to move on. But Bream raised the story again, plus its sources that include someone with "direct knowledge of the process," and Biden's previous statements about being "able to" bring an end to Nord Stream if the U.S. wanted to cut off Russia's stream of oil to other countries.

But Kirby wasn't having any of it. "It's a completely false story," Kirby said before reiterating the same thing several times. "There is no truth to it, Shannon — not a shred of it — it is not true. The United States, and no proxies of the United States, had anything to do with that," he continued. "Nothing."

Bream then asked Kirby whether President Biden would be obligated to notify Congress before taking such an action, but Kirby again hit the denials without, curiously, actually answering the question.

"We did not take any such operation, Shannon, and obviously we keep Congress informed appropriately of things — both classified and unclassified — but I can tell you now, regardless of the notification process, there was no U.S. involvement in this," Kirby emphasized. "None. Zero. It's completely false," he said again of Hersch's story.

But would Biden need to let Congress know before he took action to sabotage another country's infrastructure? Kirby, for whatever reason, declined to answer.

Watch:

NSC spokesperson John Kirby claims the Seymour Hersh story alleging the US blew up the Nord Stream pipeline is not true.

"It's a completely false story. There is no truth to it, Shannon. Not a shred of it. It is not true." pic.twitter.com/KqwUNPyMLc— Wendell Husebø (@WendellHusebo) February 19, 2023



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: actofwar; bidenblowspipelines; bidensaidhewould; couldbeanybody; joeblowspipelines; joewantsaworldwar; johnkirby; letsgobrandon; noevidence; noproof; nordstream; pipeline; sabotage; screwingourallies; seymourhersch; seymourhersh; shannonbream; spencerbrown; stillnoproof; whobenefitsjoebiden; whobenefitsnotputin
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1 posted on 02/20/2023 4:57:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Neither. Neither is trustworthy.


2 posted on 02/20/2023 4:59:17 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I will go with MonkeyWerx.


3 posted on 02/20/2023 5:00:56 PM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I could easily believe that Biden and Co. did this simply because it fits the pattern AND he said they would do it. They continue to deny it but the higher up the chain you move the more tepid the denials appear to me.

Hersch had a LOT of specifics in his article and even more specifics in interviews that I watched so I don’t think he is making something up. He is pretty dismissive about the denials even if he still always bashes Trump.

Who to believe.........


4 posted on 02/20/2023 5:03:34 PM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: nickcarraway

RE: Neither. Neither is trustworthy.

What’s the result then?

These are the only possibilities:

1) The US government did not do it ( RESULT: Believe the White House )

2) The US government did it (RESULT: Believe Seymour Hersch )

What other possibilities are there not covered by 1 and 2?


5 posted on 02/20/2023 5:03:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It was the US but certain people in the White House are kept out of the loop.


6 posted on 02/20/2023 5:06:44 PM PST by LukeL
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To: SeekAndFind

Neocons: Iraq has WMD’s. Lied.

Neolib Obama administration no proof given Gaddafi was going to kill 10k of his own people before he had NATO break their charter and offensively attack Libya.

Clinton admn: Serbs are committing genocide. Hyped numbers.

Mr. Hersh is credited with breaking:

1. My Lai Massacre. Gov caught lying.

2. He pushed along the Watergate story, government saud it was a lie.

3. Abu Graib. Government lied.

Clapper lied

Etc, etc, etc, Ad Infinitum.


7 posted on 02/20/2023 5:07:03 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: nickcarraway
My goodness, numerous numb-skulls in the Administration, including Biden. as much as admitted their culpability.
8 posted on 02/20/2023 5:12:50 PM PST by iontheball
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To: SeekAndFind

Eco-terrorism.


9 posted on 02/20/2023 5:18:14 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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To: nickcarraway

Somebody pointed out in the last couple of days that a ship Hersch has participating in this dastardly deed was decommissioned long ago and may by now have been cut up for scrap.

The question of guilt is still open, but Seymour has definitely passed his “sell-by” date.


10 posted on 02/20/2023 5:18:44 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (eleutheromaniac)
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To: SeekAndFind
BIDEN: "If Russia invades Ukraine there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring end to it"


11 posted on 02/20/2023 5:23:59 PM PST by henbane ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

“What other possibilities are there not covered by 1 and 2?”

Well I can think of a lot..

Maybe a Russian faction did it.

Maybe Soros did it (I assign this a high probability)

But I also tend to believe the US gov’t was involved and approved


12 posted on 02/20/2023 5:25:31 PM PST by algore
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To: Its All Over Except ...

but still no actual proof, correct?

btw, I notice that the people pushing this unproven theory so strongly are the America-haters ...


13 posted on 02/20/2023 5:30:27 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: nickcarraway

I believe Hersch ONLY until Joey Crappy Pants PROVES otherwise. Joey is a serial liar, pervert, pedophile, plagiarist, etc.

Joey did it.


14 posted on 02/20/2023 5:34:39 PM PST by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: SeekAndFind

Still no one above the ‘Spokesman’ level denying that we blew up the pipeline, or at least had a hand in it.

Interesting. Also interesting is that US Reporters REFUSE to ask higher-ups about it...seems to me that if they’re not asked, then they don’t need to lie - works out good for them.

Of course the problem is in Europe, where people aren’t too hot about seeing the US intentionally destroy their only reliable source of cheap energy. They’re now asking questions, at least since the Hersch article came out.


15 posted on 02/20/2023 5:38:29 PM PST by BobL
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I notice that the people pushing this unproven theory so strongly are the America-haters ...

You'll need to include the German investigators as America-haters too. Germany, which is the only country to investigate the pipeline bombings after Denmark, Norway, and Sweden all withdrew from the investigation (Hersh tells us why), has concluded there is no evidence the Russians were involved in the destruction of their own pipeline.

16 posted on 02/20/2023 5:38:34 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: canuck_conservative

Not surprised to see you here deflecting from what Obama, Bush, Clinton, Clapper, etc, did as it’s par for the course for DC.

I notice the people doing that support neolibs, neocons, Obama, Clinton, Biden, etc.


17 posted on 02/20/2023 5:40:32 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: SeekAndFind

So we expeect Biden to see....Yes we did it. It was the right thing to do.


18 posted on 02/20/2023 5:41:05 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

What other possibilities are there not covered by 1 and 2?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
A third and very obvious one, namely that the U.S. did do it but the Delaware Dunce hasn’t been informed of that, and for good reasons. It’s called plausible deniability!


19 posted on 02/20/2023 5:42:59 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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RE: A third and very obvious one, namely that the U.S. did do it but the Delaware Dunce hasn’t been informed of that, and for good reasons

That’s still covered by possibility number 2.


20 posted on 02/20/2023 5:43:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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