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White House Again Denies Any U.S. Role in Nord Stream Pipeline Sabotage: Who to believe, the government or Seymour Hersch ?
Townhall ^ | 02/20/2023 | Spencer Brown

Posted on 02/20/2023 4:57:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Right_Wing_Madman
Germany ... has concluded there is no evidence the Russians were involved in the destruction of their own pipeline

which proves nothing


21 posted on 02/20/2023 5:46:01 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: SeekAndFind
Who to believe, the government or Seymour Hersch ?

What a choice.

A bombshell report by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist

Weren't the Russiagate Hoax reporters given this same reward?

22 posted on 02/20/2023 5:48:13 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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which proves nothing

Then why did Denmark, Sweden, and Norway withdraw from the investigation? They had every incentive to pin this on the Russians.

23 posted on 02/20/2023 5:51:02 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: nickcarraway

Thank you. I’m sick to death of hearing “Pulitzer prize” this and “respected” journalist that. “He’s a tool of the government and industry too…”. Frank Zappa


24 posted on 02/20/2023 5:51:34 PM PST by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: canuck_conservative
I notice that the people pushing this unproven theory so strongly are the America-haters.

Why the gratuitous canard?

Until you read and disprove Hersh's air-tight narrative-- with its absolutely interlocking detail to prove his case, you have absolutely no standing to slop your "America-haters" smear into the Free Republic website.

How America [Joe Biden] Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

25 posted on 02/20/2023 5:51:42 PM PST by henbane ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Outsourcing


26 posted on 02/20/2023 5:52:31 PM PST by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: SeekAndFind

No doubt Hersh will get the Pierre Salanger treatment.


27 posted on 02/20/2023 5:54:39 PM PST by TBall
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To: SeekAndFind

28 posted on 02/20/2023 5:57:12 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: bigfootbob

I miss Frank.


29 posted on 02/20/2023 5:58:29 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cui Bono? Who else but the US benefits?


30 posted on 02/20/2023 6:01:30 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: nickcarraway
Neither. Neither is trustworthy.

Nailed it.

31 posted on 02/20/2023 6:03:51 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: henbane

It’s obvious the smear deflects attention away from Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc, but mostly Biden.

Canuck “Conservative” - to say that out of nowhere - must hate that attention placed on them as there were better ways for him to make his point than for him to stoop to being a liar.


32 posted on 02/20/2023 6:04:36 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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What other possibilities are there not covered by 1 and 2??

That the US did it but Hersch knows nothing and is totally fabricating his account.

33 posted on 02/20/2023 6:06:56 PM PST by semimojo
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To: henbane; Its All Over Except ...

wrong, it’s not up to anyone to disprove Hersh’s wild speculations

you got it backwards - it’s up to you America-haters to prove that the US did it ... and so far, you’ve proven bupkis


34 posted on 02/20/2023 6:11:59 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

Nope. No role at all.

Just means, motive, and intent.

https://youtu.be/NSZyKYitC3M


35 posted on 02/20/2023 6:27:44 PM PST by Rural_Michigan
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US officials and elected politicians have directly verbalized intent to take action against the pipeline. See video clip:

https://youtu.be/NSZyKYitC3M

What do you have? Trusting what all these creeps tell us? Sorry, they don’t deserve our trust anymore.


36 posted on 02/20/2023 6:31:18 PM PST by Rural_Michigan
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To: dfwgator

Truthfully, I was a dumbass dropout wannabe back when I first heard Zappa’s musical work. Then I was in high school and saw him and William F. Buckley, Jr on Crossfire or whatever was the political show de jour was, I was amazed, it changed my life for the better. I too miss him.


37 posted on 02/20/2023 6:44:48 PM PST by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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“... a ship Hersch has participating in this dastardly deed was decommissioned long ago...”

It’s not unbelievable that the ship could have been taken off the books and put into some sort of “special operations”.


38 posted on 02/20/2023 6:46:51 PM PST by ryderann
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To believe Hersh's story you'd have to believe Norway and Denmark conspired with the US to blow up a Russian pipeline delivering gas to Germany.

Someone forgot to tell Hersh to put the bong down.

The story conveniently aligns with Russian propaganda to stir up more anti-American sentiment in Germany and have NATO allies pointing fingers at one another.

The explosives were laid when the pipelines were built: they were always a political project not an economic one as Russia could keep delivering gas more cheaply through Ukraine and Poland. It was designed to shaft both countries and make the Germans directly dependent on Russia. The pipelines were blown the week after Germany started proceedings to seize Gazprom's assets in Germany.

39 posted on 02/20/2023 6:47:18 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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As I recall, on Crossfire, the “liberal” was Thomas Braden, and the “conservative” was Robert Novak, and Braden was the one who attacked Zappa, while Novak agreed with a lot of Zappa’s points.


40 posted on 02/20/2023 6:47:48 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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