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Justifying Attack on Social Security, House Republican Claims People ‘Want to Work Longer’
Alaska Native News ^ | Jan 16 2023 | Jake Johnson

Posted on 01/17/2023 9:24:09 AM PST by 6thavenue

Republican Rep. Rick Allen of Georgia suggested last week that he would support raising the Social Security retirement age—a policy change that would slash benefits across the board—because people have approached him and said they “actually want to work longer.”

Confronted by an advocate in the Capitol Building and asked how the GOP plans to cut Social Security, the congressman responded, “We’re not going to cut Social Security.”

But seconds later, Allen contradicted himself by expressing support for raising the retirement age, saying the move would “solve every one of these problems”—not specifying what the “problems” are from his perspective.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: retirementage; rickallen; socialsecurity
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To: ConservativeInPA

Republicans have no reason to even discuss these things because there’s no political upside to it. Why mess with them? Many of these idiotic things like Social Security and ObamaCare are designed to screw younger people (mostly Democrat voters) for the benefit of older people (mostly Republican voters). It’s best to leave things alone and keep screwing those Democrat voters.


61 posted on 01/17/2023 10:04:50 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: 6thavenue

Oh, and they are not going to cut our SS payments. BS. Politicians are politicians. Ripping off citizens of our benefits for which most of us worked from age 18 to age 65 or more. Screwing us in the ground so they can give it to illegals who have not worked a day, or medical benefits, housing, and VOTING ballets to forge and send in to elects Communists.


62 posted on 01/17/2023 10:06:52 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Jesus Christ is THE Way, THE Truth & THE Life. He and He alone IS THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN!! No other)
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To: 6thavenue
I'm still working at 66. Earning a good salary. I plan to remain employed through the end of 2023. I'll be 67 at that time. I do not want politicians changing the rules to make me work longer. I'm doing it because I like my job and the good income that comes with it. I will have significantly less financial resources when I retire. Given the state of the economy, right now is a poor time to retire.
63 posted on 01/17/2023 10:08:54 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Alberta's Child

Good post.

The young people will eventually figure out that they have been scammed—and it is their problem to deal with it as best they can.


64 posted on 01/17/2023 10:09:27 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: AppyPappy

I worked until 75...but made just enough so I wasn’t penalized...solved the “boring” part of retirement. Now that I’m 79...I’m glad I’m retired. I have a great hobby that keeps me going.


65 posted on 01/17/2023 10:09:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: 6thavenue

Nothing is stopping people from working longer. I retired at the end of 2022, and I’m almost 71.


66 posted on 01/17/2023 10:11:09 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: EBH
And if things actually crash...there’s a lot of Boomers who are going to be quite angry at losing everything.

Obama crashed my 401k by $500,000 in 2008. I've rebuilt in the following years, but Biden has now trashed another $300,000 off the rebuilt value vs when Trump left office.

67 posted on 01/17/2023 10:11:20 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: cgbg

BS.

Look at how fast they come up with money for stupid wars.

The iraq war cost ~ 2 Trillion dollars.

100 Billion+ for Ukraine so far.

The current Social Security Trust fund is ~ 3 Trillion.

They have plenty of money for things they are interested in but never any money for things that benefit the people.

Remember when Nancy said we couldn’t afford 6 billion to complete the wall.

I rest my case.


68 posted on 01/17/2023 10:11:37 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: cgbg

Social Security is technically a benefit based on insurance payment contributions (as in the Federal Insurance Contributions Act - FICA). When the accumulated payout become more than your ‘contributions’ it’s then just a defined benefit like most any other annuity.

It sounds like a Ponzi scheme but it DOES pay out, like you say as long as the Federal Government exists, even when the influx payments don’t meet the payouts. Ponzi schemes don’t do that (ala Bernie Madoff). Of course, as you say, it all goes to shit if this government fails. :0(


69 posted on 01/17/2023 10:14:05 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Leaning Right

Yep. These idiots barely won the house and are guaranteed to lose it with this type of talk.


70 posted on 01/17/2023 10:15:26 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 democratic )
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To: desertfreedom765
Most people working after 60 have been with the same organization for many years or are self employed.

Yup. 31 years with my current employer. I'll be 67 with 32 years with the current employer if I retire at the end of 2023.

71 posted on 01/17/2023 10:16:08 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: 6thavenue

Remove the cap. So simple and would keep social security for a 100 years. Very easy and justified to do.


72 posted on 01/17/2023 10:19:33 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 democratic )
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To: desertfreedom765

The problem is that the “Social Security trust fund” is not a trust fund.

See post 12.

Pretending that it is one does not make it one!


73 posted on 01/17/2023 10:20:47 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg

Yep, the trust fund is a myth.


74 posted on 01/17/2023 10:22:37 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 6thavenue

Remove the unjustified earned income penalty, problem solved.


75 posted on 01/17/2023 10:26:25 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Leaning Right

“If the GOP wants to mess around with Social Security, they are free to do so. And it might even help the country. But it will also mint many more Democrats.”

(A) It has to be done, and the key is how the GOP leadership communicates (a) the need and (b) the real changes - what they are and what they are not.

(B) There has to be an approach that makes different adjustments to different aspects, to minimize any adjustment that would otherwise hit one aspect alone. Current wage earners as well as new retirees especially, will have to take changes. A single change in one aspect alone would either be not sufficient or too harsh. Adjustments to mulitple aspects can minimize and spread “the pain”.


76 posted on 01/17/2023 10:30:38 AM PST by Wuli
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To: 6thavenue

Do these idiot Republicans REALLY want a permanent Democrat majority??


77 posted on 01/17/2023 10:31:56 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: Truthsearcher

That’s what I did. I was coerced into paying into Social Security, so why not get my money back while I can.


78 posted on 01/17/2023 10:32:05 AM PST by cbvanb
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To: Wuli

You just perfectly described a GOP death march.

“The only way to win is not to play.”


79 posted on 01/17/2023 10:32:42 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Gaffer

True. There are a lot of entitlements that younger people get that could be cut first. However, the notion that Social Security could get reduced by about 30% holds true on its current trajectory. Eventually, the IOUs will run out, and then they will have to pay less to balance things out.

Otherwise, they will use more printy-money, and that will just contribute to inflation.


80 posted on 01/17/2023 10:34:02 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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