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Putin thought NATO was moribund. He was right, but he didn't realise that his invasion of Ukraine would not only reinvigorate NATO but make it much, much stronger.

Now we KNOW that Russia invades non NATO neighbours

1 posted on 12/31/2022 10:24:13 PM PST by Cronos
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Russia -

“Help! We’re stuck in the Donbas Quagmire and can’t get out!”


2 posted on 12/31/2022 10:27:29 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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Putin should remove Russian troops out of any land not part of the Grand Duchy of Moscow in 1533.


3 posted on 12/31/2022 10:32:11 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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nuke Putin


4 posted on 12/31/2022 10:36:42 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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Putin invades countries that he perceives as militarily ‘weak’. In the Ukraine case, he wanted the FSB (KGB) to agree with his logic that they were easily defeated, and no one really argued with him.

One odd fact at this point. If you tally up the losses of helicopters, fighters, artillery, APC’s, fuel tankers, and tanks...with the current GDP situation, it’ll take 20-odd years to restore them to the 2021 level of capability. Add to it...the Oligarch crowd taking their 25-percent ‘cut’ of the military fund.


6 posted on 12/31/2022 11:09:29 PM PST by pepsionice
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Once the Neocons took control of Western governments, it didn’t matter what Putin demanded, he was going to be ignored anyway. If the Neocons wanted to station troops and missiles 20 miles outside of Moscow, they would have done it despite any Russian objections.

As far as this new ‘super-powerful NATO’ is concerned, I’m still trying to figure out how it got so strong, given its levels of military spending, its Drag Queen shows, and some of the pretty faces running it. But we’ll see - Drag Queens can be pretty damn vicious (almost as vicious as the Azovs), so maybe I missed out on that part of their strategy.


10 posted on 01/01/2023 3:20:39 AM PST by BobL
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putin is not just evil, which is horrific

he is stupid!

putin is in no position to do anything but surrender

making demands shows his megalomania and delusion.

may his evil and his stupidity return to him asap


11 posted on 01/01/2023 3:33:14 AM PST by Sunsong
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Keep dreaming.


12 posted on 01/01/2023 3:45:02 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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https://archive.is/sEwWm


14 posted on 01/01/2023 4:00:17 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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I hear they are desperate for anyone now. Make a difference.

28 posted on 01/01/2023 4:31:52 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Thanks for this post from before Putin invaded Ukraine. No one wanted this war but dumbass Putin. Who will be dead or deposed by March 2023


34 posted on 01/01/2023 4:48:48 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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The Russian negotiating opener is a joke.

Russia is in no position to make any demands. Russia has lost the military and economic capability to exist much less demand what is can not achieve otherwise

The only valid Russian demand is to maintain in excess of 50% of oil and gas revenues sequestered by the west as reparations


36 posted on 01/01/2023 5:12:22 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality daythis piece is )
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We fomented a Ukraine revolution/coup in 2014, caused a civil war and sided with the neo-Nazis and Ukrainian nationalists that wanted to exterminate the ethnic Russian population.

We encouraged Ukraine to ignore the Minsk Agreement it signed that would have brought peace to the region.

We armed Ukraine with offensive weapons, teased NATO membership for Ukraine and opened biological weapons labs there.

Then we built the Ukrainian army into the largest army in the NATO zone besides us, and massed it for deployment in the area of the Donbass in obvious preparation for an attack.

And finally, when Russia responded to all that, we claimed they invaded Ukraine for no good reason to annex territory.


39 posted on 01/01/2023 5:44:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████.)
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“he didn’t realise that his invasion of Ukraine would not only reinvigorate NATO but make it much, much stronger.”
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Let’s see how strong NATO is after the European economies collapse after losing cheap Russian energy.


44 posted on 01/01/2023 6:37:20 AM PST by jimwatx
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You are the fools handmaiden. Nothing you said could be farther from the truth.


47 posted on 01/01/2023 6:54:41 AM PST by Jumper ( )
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LMFAO. You neocon clowns are being played.

2022: The Year Trump Was Vindicated as EU Green Agenda Went Up in Smoke
In December, Breitbart London reported that imports of Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) from Russia actually increased by 21 per cent to the EU and UK compared to before the February invasion. This meant that the EU and UK paid Moscow nearly 27 billion euros ($28.4/£23.5 billion) for LNG.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/01/01/the-year-trump-was-vindicated-as-the-eus-green-agenda-went-up-in-smoke/

60 posted on 01/01/2023 7:57:32 AM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat)
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This is a repeat of what Putin said last December.

If NATO refuse to with draw from countries after 1997, what is Russia going to do about it? Nothing. This is why Eastern Europe and former Soviet states joined NATO.

NATO is not and never has been a aggressor threat to Russia. Russia is the aggressor to Europe.

83 posted on 01/01/2023 5:23:21 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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