Some people are ridiculous. Concept of independent sovereign country cannot enter their heads.
Posted on 12/19/2022 4:45:24 AM PST by JonPreston
The UK, the biggest supporter of Ukraine after the US is reconsidering its support for Ukraine. The same country which has given unwavering support to Ukraine till today is backing off from Ukraine. And, this step is being taken by Rishi Sunak. Let’s find out the crux of the move.
According to BBC Newsnight, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has requested a data-driven assessment of the war’s development in Ukraine.
Critics say that it makes little sense why is UK sending its military weapons to Ukraine when the war directly doesn’t concern it. According to information provided to BBC Newsnight, Volodymyr Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, is aware of the debate taking place in the UK and is urging Mr. Sunak to continue providing his nation with a robust military presence.
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Some people are ridiculous. Concept of independent sovereign country cannot enter their heads.
Crimea has been Russian longer than Ohio has been part of America. It’s their main Navy base. Do you think that was going to get turned over to NATO?
Now a serious question for you. Every liberal entity, in academia, media, Hollywood, the US government, Hillary, Soros, Schumer, macron, Merkel, Trudeau, the Vindman brothers,, Fiona Hill, the NYT, CNN, Newland, the EU, the WEF. Every globalist anti-American entity you can find anywhere supports Ukraine over Russia. Do you think they suddenly became stalwart defenders of western civilization? Or is it more likely they are pursuing evil and are manipulating those who just couldn’t lose the Cold War mentality?
Time for the next scam.
“I am an America First supporter. We should not be involved in these endless wars that are bleeding us dry”
That is a reasonable position. Better than the America haters that simply want us to lose.
I do think your position is wrong, and reflect a Liberal Worldview. Do you support defunding the police? Do you believe that without the Thin Blue Line everyone would live in peace and harmony?
The reality is that someone needs to maintain law and order. For the past 70 years that has been the USA, and it has led to a long period of peace and security. Is it fair that the whole burden falls to us? No. Yet I would much rather it be us that sets the rules than someone else (The UN, China, Russia, etc)
Incredibly, there are members here like Timber Rattler perfectly okay with that.
“And on Russia’s side, the hard liners will likely take out Putin. What follows will be worse.”
Oh no! You mean the Russian are going to elect Xiden with 81 million votes?
Putin’s legacy will be seen as the reinstatement of the monarchy, couched in a military dictatorship. Putin is already a Czar in all but name. I think there is a good chance the next leader assumes the title.
I still want Russia to win, Xiden supports Ukraine, they are the bad guys. If Xiden is for them, I am against them.
“...If Xiden is for them, I am against them...”
So if Biden supports St. Jude Children’s Hospital you are against it?
Biden does not really support Ukraine. He wanted Ukraine to fold fast, offering to help Zelensky flee. He has slow-walked aid to Ukraine. Look what Nixon did in 32 days for Israel during the Yom Kippur War. Biden has all kinds of ties to Russian corruption, Chinese corruption, and Iranian corruption. Ukraine is the cleanest country going as far as top leadership. Biden, Putin, and Xi make Zelensky look like the assetic James K. Polk.
If you want Russia’s Ukraine invasion to be successful, then YOU are very evil.
—> Putin is already a Czar in all but name.
I agree with your assessment. I’d add he is a Russian Nationalist.
—> I still want Russia to win, Xiden supports Ukraine, they are the bad guys. If Xiden is for them, I am against them.
I can’t say I’m cheering for a win, but I hope the globohomopedos in charge of Ukraine are thoroughly defeated.
Yes, if Xiden supported St. Jude it would be because they were were doing transition surgery on minors, against the will of the parents. He doesn’t support any cause that is good, decent, or moral. Xiden is a small Antichrist doing evil, surrounding himself with perverts and criminals all the while claiming to be a devout Catholic. He calls evil good and good evil. ALL DEMOCRATS DO. So, if Xiden supports it it is evil and that would include St, Jude.
Billions, and billions, and billions of dollars of aide to Ukraine (His personal money laundering province) says he does support Ukraine. To the hilt.
First I believe your statement about Crimea is inaccurate. Crimea became part of the Russian federation in 1921, and was transferred back to Ukraine in 1954 by the Soviet Union. The fact that Putin apparently did not agree with that historical fact is irrelevant, can putin now say he doesn’t accept the sale of Alaska to US and annex and invade Alaska?
So is Putin part of this whole global cabal, after all none of this would be happening if he hadn’t invaded.
Well played.
No, The territory of Crimea, previously controlled by the Crimean Khanate, was annexed by the Russian Empire on 19 April 1783. By Catherine the Great.
For extra credit. The Charge of the Light Brigade, Florence Nightingale etc. That was in the Crimean war. What fleet was homeported there? Who was the Light Brigade attacking?
It’s been Russian from the Year we concluded the Treaty of Paris, ending the US Revolutionary war. It has been Russian since that time, 239 years now.
“and was transferred back to Ukraine in 1954”
From 1783 until 1954 it was never a possession of, nor administered from Kiev. After 1954 it was still run from Moscow and has continuously been home to the Russian fleet from 1783 until... now.
You need to read some history.
Your logic is very illogical. If Trotsky doesn’t like Stalin that does not make Trotsky a good guy. You are not of sound mind.
Russia brutally invaded Ukraine and you jump through hoops to make it about something else. You are evil because you support the evil invasion. Liberate the Donbas! Glory to Ukraine! Support brave Ukrainian soldiers!
I never said Russia was blameless. Just that Ukraine is worse. They are because they are worse, if for no other reason,Biden allies.
If Xiden is for them you should be against them. Xiden and US democrats are an existential threat not just the US but the world. You should never side with them,ever.
I want the Russians to win so that Xiden is humiliated. Not because I favor Russia. Russia is the lessor of two evils.
Lol I am quite aware of history and your timeline is very shallow there was a lot happening before your 1783 date and if you use that date as a starting point much of the worlds countries have could have territorial demands the same as Russia I notice you did not address my Alaska scenario. Should we give the southwest back to Mexico and then back to Spain and then back to the people Spain took it from and then those give it back to the ones they took it from…. The fact that a some point Russia/soviet union controlled Ukraine and that they need that port is not relevant. They also controlled Poland east Germany Latvia Estonia and Lithuania does Russia have a right to take them back. Much of the world including Europe and their current borders have changed relative to the dates you cherry picked. Fact, Ukraine at this point Is a recognized and sovereign country. The idea that Putin does not recognize this and wants it back for his”greater” Russia and lebensraum, population and resources is irrelevant
Oh ok gotcha. I thought you were sincere. You’re just an ideological Ukraine advocate. The point is that Russia has had it since 1783, not that there are trying to reclaim an ancient claim. same fleet the whole time. The USSR communists moved it within their system but they never gave up control of it. After the 91 breakup it would have remained that way. But the Uke nazis funded by us took over and the retards in DC fantasized there were going to turn a Russian navy base since 1783 into a US Navy NATO base.
Mix in some ethnic cleaning and the die was cast.
That’s why, but you already knew that didn’t you?
Got ya so only the most recent history matters. And Russia was always such a good friend to Ukrainians like starving millions of them, btw that is not ancient history. Even if as you say the nazis took over Ukraine it was still the country of Ukraine.
I believe the acquisition of Alaska falls in your timeline is that in play?
Strategically controlling Alaska would be a bigger deal than Ukraine.
Much if not most of the current borders of US fall within your timeline are in play
Can England, Spain and France and the ottoman’s reclaim their empires as they also fall within and even before in many cases your timeline
At what point is something set in stone? 1991, 1954, …..
So what you are saying is that you want innocent Ukrainians to be occupied by the 23-year dictator’s criminal Mohammedan troops so that you can play a political game as if it is a brainless NFL contest. You want to reward the American hating country with more natural resources so it can strengthen its subversive campaigns against America. Obama promised Russia more “flexibility” from his administration and you are continuing that promise. Hillery worked through the Russian Uranium deal, and you are fine with that Russian support. You must really hate America. Biden is senile and only does what his disjointed hacks put on the teleprompter and his people withhold vital military systems from Ukraine, and you are okay with that too.
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