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Kiev can 'end suffering' by agreeing to our terms - Peskov
TeleTrader ^ | 11/24/22 | TeleTrader

Posted on 11/24/2022 6:35:44 AM PST by JonPreston

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To: kiryandil
You would think they'd be less angry on Thanksgiving.

Mention peace and they go postal :P

61 posted on 11/24/2022 7:48:40 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: discostu

As you said, Putin’s ego will not allow stopping misery of Ukrainian people . Which then leads me to conclude, either Ukraine agree to Putin’s terms for ceasefire, or continue causing more suffering for Ukrainian people.


62 posted on 11/24/2022 7:50:24 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: JonPreston

AFTER the invasion. You guys sure love using things caused by the invasion as excuses for the invasion. You guys are pathetic.


63 posted on 11/24/2022 7:50:33 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: JonPreston
russher is loosing.

Take THAT, Putin!!

64 posted on 11/24/2022 7:51:04 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: entropy12

So let the bully win is your advice? Geeze what’s wrong with this country. According to your logic we should have let Hitler win, thus ending the suffering.


65 posted on 11/24/2022 7:51:24 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

It did not matter to Russia what France and Germany thought. The fact that Zelensky was pushing for NATO membership was enough to attack Ukraine.


66 posted on 11/24/2022 7:51:51 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: discostu

To: discostu
Ukraine wasn’t joining NATO. STOP LYING.

ya' blockhead

Ukraine submits an application to join NATO

54 posted on 11/24/2022 7:47:13 AM PST by JonPreston

67 posted on 11/24/2022 7:52:59 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: entropy12
It did not matter to Russia what France and Germany thought. The fact that Zelensky was pushing for NATO membership was enough to attack Ukraine.

Obviously it did not matter to them because they did not care whether Ukraine would join NATO. However, since joining NATO was impossible, that makes their lies more clear.

68 posted on 11/24/2022 7:53:58 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: MeganC; Socon-Econ; JonPreston; Travis McGee
Russia will not be allowed to profit from this war. Simple as that.

Is that you, Victoria?

You might want to mosey on down to the harbor.

You'll find that ship has already sailed.

Wait'll December 5th, when the WestTards try to impose the price cap on Russher's oil.

    

69 posted on 11/24/2022 7:54:35 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: discostu

Bullies have been winning on earth since Adam & Eve. Every war was won by the stronger party, and spoils of war belonged to the victor. USA is the only exception. We fought foreign wars with borrowed money and gained nothing except more national debt. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Ukraine...same story repeated. WHen will Americans learn? Learn the real world, and stop living in a Utopian world.


70 posted on 11/24/2022 7:54:42 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: JonPreston

Sept 30, 2022

6 months AFTER THE INVASION

Using that to justify the invasion is pathetic.


71 posted on 11/24/2022 7:55:07 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: JonPreston

You’re just saying that because it’s true.


72 posted on 11/24/2022 7:55:15 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

What does it matter if it was lies or the truth. Result is the Ukrainian people are suffering like crazy.


73 posted on 11/24/2022 7:56:41 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: entropy12
What does it matter if it was lies or the truth.

Think logically. If the accusation is: "Russia invaded because Ukraine was going to join NATO," but that was impossible, then that means that was not the reason why Russia invaded Ukraine.

So when anyone makes that claim on this forum, it is simply false.

Obviously it is important to Putinists since they continue to repeat it.

74 posted on 11/24/2022 7:59:40 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: entropy12

Wow. That’s just.... wow. The level of surrender monkey in there is.... Geeze. I can’t even. You’ve basically just said we shouldn’t have fought the Revolution. We shouldn’t have had the Civil War. We shouldn’t have fought WWII. We shouldn’t have opposed Communism. We shouldn’t have fought terrorists. Just let the bully win.

I’m not living in a Utopia. I recognize that sometime bullies do win. But we don’t have to SURRENDER to their every demand. That’s just pathetic. Stop begging for dystopia. Because that’s what you’re pushing. Give every bully everything they want to avoid suffering. Forgetting entirely that suffering is really what bullies want and they don’t stop just because you surrendered. The school bully didn’t stop beating you up for your lunch money because you gave it to him Monday. Once you gave it to him Monday he knew he could get it from you Tuesday. And Wednesday. And every other day. He doesn’t want the money. He wants to beat you up, to feel strong. Eventually you’ve got to fight him. That’s the only way it ever stops.


75 posted on 11/24/2022 7:59:58 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

You live in a country which is in dent to it’s eyeballs. The US Treasury will soon paying out TRILLION dollars every year in interest payments due to interest rates going up. You live essentially in a bankrupt country but you still want to fight more foreign wars with MORE BORROWED MONEY? DO you realize how stupid that is?


76 posted on 11/24/2022 8:01:06 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
If satellite photography been available at the time a shot of Britain during the Blitz or the Atlantic and Gulf coasts of the USA under the threat of German Wolfpack subs would have had a similar aspect. It's blackout as well as power disruption.

I think Russia intended and expected to crack a few eggs and take the Ukraine intact. Now they just want to keep what they've taken, lick wounds for a few years, and then come back for more.

77 posted on 11/24/2022 8:01:09 AM PST by katana
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To: JonPreston

To say nothing of Willie Brown’s holster shooting her mouth off about EUkraine’s NATO membership at München in February...


78 posted on 11/24/2022 8:01:32 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: discostu
Stop being dopey, ok?


79 posted on 11/24/2022 8:01:40 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
these people did not surrender even when their military collapsed in 2014 and regular farmers, doctors, and college professors had to pickup arms and fight in the blood and the mud to keep Russia from taking the entirety of the Donbass.

Is that what the Euromaiden Revolution was? An overthrow of Kiev by the Russians? Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea seceded from the Russian controlled government in Kiev?
80 posted on 11/24/2022 8:02:06 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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