[Jan_Sobieski]

these people did not surrender even when their military collapsed in 2014 and regular farmers, doctors, and college professors had to pickup arms and fight in the blood and the mud to keep Russia from taking the entirety of the Donbass.

Is that what the Euromaiden Revolution was? An overthrow of Kiev by the Russians? Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea seceded from the Russian controlled government in Kiev?

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea seceded from the Russian controlled government in Kiev?

I have no idea what point you think you are trying to make in this post, but Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea were invaded by Russian troops. They did not "secede" from anywhere. They were conquered.

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

Russian/ Putin 1st invasion 2014: Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea. Putin declared them Russia. So, the Evil Ruler of this world subjects all nations to his demands.