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Putin's Defence Minister Should Consider Suicide, Russian-Installed Official Says
US News ^ | 10/6/2022 | Reuters

Posted on 10/06/2022 1:18:19 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

A Russian-installed official in Ukraine on Thursday suggested President Vladimir Putin's defence minister should consider killing himself due to the shame of the defeats in the Ukraine war, an astonishing public insult to Russia's top brass.

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Kirill Stremousov, the Russian-installed deputy head of the annexed Kherson region, followed suit, publicly lambasting the "generals and ministers" in Moscow for failing to understand the problems on the front.

"Indeed, many say: if they were a defence minister who had allowed such a state of affairs, they could, as officers, have shot themselves," Stremousov, 45, said. "But you know the word 'officer' is an incomprehensible word for many."

Such public - and insulting - censure of Putin's military chiefs from within the system used to be extremely rare in Russia, but a series of defeats on the battlefield in Ukraine has prompted some of Putin's allies to rebuke top generals.

Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov and Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder of the Wagner Group of mercenaries, ridiculed generals, saying the military was riddled with nepotism and that senior officers should be stripped of their ranks and sent to the front barefoot to atone for their sins.

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The defence ministry did not respond to a written request for comment.

(Excerpt) Read more at usnews.com ...


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1 posted on 10/06/2022 1:18:19 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Assisted?....................


2 posted on 10/06/2022 1:21:43 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Right. The "Defence" Minister has done such a poor job that Russia has only gained 40,000 square miles and about nine million new residents.

The map doesn't like, Marky.

3 posted on 10/06/2022 1:24:34 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: marcusmaximus

Shoigu, the fake military guy, is a survivor, but he may not survive what’s coming.


4 posted on 10/06/2022 1:24:37 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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https://sonar21.com/more-military-and-economic-considerations-in-ukraine/

It appears to me that Russia is baiting Ukraine to take territory and then face the task of trying to take a city Russia holds, such as Kherson. If Ukaine wishes to oust Russia from Kherson it will have to mass forces necessary to conduct the block to block fighting that Russia did when it captured Mariupol. Remember that?

Even if this is not a Russian plan (i.e., baiting the Ukrainians) the outcome will be the same. Ukraine will have to conduct a frontal assault on the city of Kherson and, in order to do this, will have to mass troops and equipment that will be easy targets for Russian artillery, missiles and bombs. Ukraine has no military power to counter what Russia can unleash. So, if your panties are in a knot over “Russia losing territory”, I suggest you take a nap on the fainting couch and calm down.

5 posted on 10/06/2022 1:25:38 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

siege tactics

surround the city, then cut off all food, water, and power

anyone who wants to leave peacefully and go back to Russian lines will be allowed - just can’t take any weapons with them

above all, avoid any urban fighting - that IS a horrific slogfest (Stalingrad, Mogadishu, etc.)

this way, with cold weather conveniently setting in, only the hard-cores will be left ...


6 posted on 10/06/2022 1:38:22 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Kazan

The Ukrainians will rely on infiltration and targeted attacks to create diversions before they make any concerted move into the city.


7 posted on 10/06/2022 1:41:49 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Kazan
And fewer residents and fewer square miles every day.

You also might consider reducing that population count by the few hundred thousand Russians who have fled conscription.

I haven't see you posting earlier. It is morning in Kamchatka, isn't it?

8 posted on 10/06/2022 1:42:06 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Kazan
Ukraine doesn't need to do a frontal assault, it can just bypass the city. The Oskil doesn't seem to have posed much of a barrier, so the Ukrainians seem to be getting much better at river crossings.

Plus they've picked up a lot of extra artillery & shells from Russian forces lately.

9 posted on 10/06/2022 1:44:41 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Kazan

You’re nuts if you think Ukraine is capable of launching any effective counteroffensive.
20 posted on 7/30/2022, 11:57:55 AM by Kazan


10 posted on 10/06/2022 1:45:15 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: marcusmaximus

It is not unknown for disgraced officers to take their own life for battlefield blunders.

What’s the surprise here?

No comment on whether that defense minister should / should not. Just noting historical fact.


11 posted on 10/06/2022 1:45:28 PM PDT by TonyinLA ( I don't have sufficient information to make an informed opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: Kazan

I love this one:

3/26/2022, 6:27:04 PM · 3 of 48
Kazan to Zhang Fei
The only thing to be decided is if Russia takes control of just the eastern half of the country, two-thirds of it or all of it.
The longer Zelensky holds out, the worse the final deal will be.


12 posted on 10/06/2022 1:47:49 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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⚡️NYT: the Biden administration has tacitly encouraged arms sales to Ukraine through private companies.

According to the publication, the deals are made through a number of intermediaries and transit through seven countries in order to “circumvent arms export regulations of other countries”.

In late February, the Biden administration tacitly accelerated private arms sales to Ukraine by hundreds of millions of dollars, reducing the weekly approval process to a few hours.

The State Department also accelerated the registration process for new arms dealers, which helped open up another flow of weapons to the Ukrainian front, but also created a shadow market.

Citing government advisers looking into this trade, the NYT states that weapons sold through private intermediaries are much more likely to end up on the black market or even in the hands of US adversaries. ⚡️


13 posted on 10/06/2022 1:47:55 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Kazan

3/24/2022, 10:59:53 AM · 31 of 75
Kazan to marcusmaximus
The Duran’s Alexander Mercouris and Gonzalo Lira both predict a Russian victory by the end of April.


14 posted on 10/06/2022 1:48:48 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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‘publicly lambasting the “generals and ministers” in Moscow’

Ah, things are getting interesting now. In Russia, you couldn’t criticize the tsar, so it was always “the tsar is being ill-advised by his generals and ministers”. So for a Russian, this is basically the same as directly criticizing Putin, just doing it in a way that they can’t be held accountable for.


15 posted on 10/06/2022 1:58:58 PM PDT by Boogieman
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16 posted on 10/06/2022 1:59:39 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Boogieman

Kremlin Palace intrigue. Grab some popcorn.


17 posted on 10/06/2022 2:04:21 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Kazan

Yeah, it’s not quite as hard to take a city when the city is populated by a large number of people who are loyal to the attackers rather than the occupiers.


18 posted on 10/06/2022 2:12:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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If i were a parent in Kherson who got the memo on my kids being confiscated by the state run by a twice unelected agitprop merchant pretending to be a Gauleiter, and shipped to Russia via Crimea, it wouldn’t matter which way I voted in the fake referendum. My allegiance would be determined by whether that story is true.

The other factor is, Stremousov has allied himself to the “nuke ‘em” faction so consider the scenario if the kids do get bussed out of the city leaving it with expendable cannon fodder from both sides and sn expendable population that’s 80% anti-annexation (the referendum was a fake.)

State sponsored genocide combined with use of WMDs following the forced abduction of hundreds of not thousands of kids, would put Russia so deep into terrorist state territory that all bets would be off.

Vatnik piñatas off every lamp post wouldn’t be out of the question.


19 posted on 10/06/2022 2:37:41 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: marcusmaximus

LOL!!!


20 posted on 10/06/2022 2:38:04 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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