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The Russians Spent Months Forming A New Army Corps. It Lasted Days in Ukraine
Forbes ^ | 15th September 2022 | David Axe

Posted on 09/25/2022 1:34:39 AM PDT by Cronos

The Kremlin this summer scrambled to form a new army corps, seeking replacements for 80,000 troops injured or killed in Ukraine and 5,000 wrecked or captured vehicles.

...As Russian casualties exceeded 50,000 this spring, the Kremlin began scraping together fresh battalions by raiding the training and garrison establishment of existing brigades. At the same time, the army announced an initiative to form scores of new regional volunteer battalions—and even offered elevated salaries of up to $5,000 a month.

This should come as no surprise. The recruitment drive behind the 3rd AC collided with Russia’s unhappy demographics and conscription practices. Roughly half of the 900,000 people in the Russian army forces are professionals on long-term contracts. The other half is conscripts between the ages of 18 and 27

elements of the 3rd AC in late August deployed to Kharkiv Oblast where, a week later, a dozen Ukrainian brigades launched a powerful counteroffensive that, in a heavy five days, rolled Russian forces out of the oblast and back across the Russian border.

The 3rd AC was supposed to bolster Russian defenses around Kharkiv. It instead lost a few vehicles to Ukrainian attacks then joined the Russian retreat from the oblast, leaving behind tanks and BMP-2 and BTR-80 fighting vehicles.

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To: vladimir998

The Referenda turnout is sufficient after Day 3:

Voter turnout in all regions Day 3 thus far:

Zaporozhye: 51.55%
LPR: 76.09%
Kherson: 48.91%
DPR: 50%+

Over 50% means that the vote will be considered valid in all regions.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/10159


121 posted on 09/25/2022 1:11:56 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
https://freerepublic.com/tag/davidaxe/index

    

122 posted on 09/25/2022 1:30:45 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: cranked

That doesn’t answer my question.


123 posted on 09/25/2022 1:38:12 PM PDT by jdsteel (PA voters: it’s Oz or Fetterman. Deal with it and vote accordingly.)
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To: jdsteel

Your question?


124 posted on 09/25/2022 1:38:29 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Cronos

The great Ruzzian army is almost as entertaining as the Three Stooges. Even Vlad has gotten a few laughs.


125 posted on 09/25/2022 1:50:07 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Owen

Another excellent post.


126 posted on 09/25/2022 1:57:39 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: cranked

“valid”

That’s laughable.


127 posted on 09/25/2022 3:20:32 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: cranked

They’re not “adding” territory.

They’re stealing it.

Guerilla war will result. This will not for years to come.

It’s nothing but evil and you’re all for it.


128 posted on 09/25/2022 3:22:56 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

File a complaint.


129 posted on 09/25/2022 3:25:47 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

“File a complaint.”

You accept and approve of evil. Your reward is all yours.


130 posted on 09/25/2022 3:29:41 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

I know who dishes out rewards and punishments come my departure from this planet, and its not you.


131 posted on 09/25/2022 3:30:39 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

It isn’t me. but He doesn’t like theft or invasions either.


132 posted on 09/25/2022 3:42:23 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Cronos; BeauBo; marcusmaximus; buwaya; tlozo
Here is another guy, e pluri , who doesn’t believe that the Ukrainians have kicked Russian butt

I believe the US is kicking Russian butt and you are pretending it’s Ukraine because you are a congenital liar.

133 posted on 09/25/2022 3:43:58 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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To: Prince of Space

I guess you really are ignoring the mobile crematoriums that have been reported by many. I guess you are really ignoring the many, many funerals of general staff officers reported in the Russian press. If the generals are getting killed I can guarantee you that many more grunts are dying. I guess you really are ignoring the the tens of thousands of conscripts that are being called up as replacements for the dead soldiers.
Just wanting the Russian deaths to not be real won’t make them go away.


134 posted on 09/25/2022 3:56:13 PM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours.)
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To: cranked

Second time:

Why is it you think so highly of Russia?

Serious question.


135 posted on 09/25/2022 4:09:10 PM PDT by jdsteel (PA voters: it’s Oz or Fetterman. Deal with it and vote accordingly.)
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To: Cronos

Regardless of casualties on either side (and there’s plenty of lying on both sides, to be sure), the simple fact is that decades of corruption in the Russian government and, in particular, in its armed forces, has led to a situation in which it is clear that Russia cannot fight a modern conventional war.

While that may be cause in the West for great celebration, more sober and long-term thinking people will understand that “it is clear that Russia cannot fight a modern conventional war” is not necessarily a good thing FOR US. Why? Because Russia, regardless of its actions this year or at any time since Putin took power, has legitimate security needs. There are five key chokepoints in the West, and when the Soviet Union existed it controlled all five. Now - not so much; they control two. Without those chokepoints being controlled by large static forces with ample ammunition and supplies, Russia itself is open to invasion - as it was in the past by Mongol hordes and German tanks. From Russia’s perspective, this is an intolerable situation, PARTICULARLY since Russia is on the demographic decline. They will simply be unable to defend themselves without holding those chokepoints in 20 years, let alone beyond that. Which necessarily means that the very existence of Russia as a nation is (in their view) at serious risk. That necessarily means that if push comes to shove, they will use the one thing that doesn’t depend on the number of soldiers that they have, or how combat ready the average conscript may be - nuclear weapons. If Russia’s leadership views this as an existential war, then we had better be prepared for some fire and brimstone - at least the tactical variety, to be used in Ukraine.

Check out Peter Zeihan on YouTube for more details - but this is a summary of his views on the subject (with which I agree). Note that I do NOT approve of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine (where my ancestors on my father’s side were born), and especially NOT the atrocities that the Russians have undoubtedly committed, but I understand their reasoning for starting this war. I also believe that we/NATO (and NATO is, for all intents and purposes, the US) have pushed Russia into a corner since the USSR collapsed, by expanding NATO ever eastward, contrary to our assurances to Soviet leaders in the early 1990s. Again, that doesn’t justify ALL of what Russia has done, but we undoubtedly bear some of the blame for the extraordinary rise in tensions. Just my $0.02.


136 posted on 09/25/2022 4:51:16 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: cranked

How many people did the soviets lose at Stalingrad?

My point is Russians will send untrained, under supplied people to die, that’s what they’ve done in the past and will do so until they get what they want.

Drop your snarky smart ass attitude, you knew damn well what I was referring to.


137 posted on 09/25/2022 5:15:57 PM PDT by SPDSHDW (Buy JHP ammo, Level 3/4 armor and rifles. Won’t be able to for much longer, and we’re gonna need em)
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To: ScottinVA

Ditto!!!


138 posted on 09/25/2022 5:25:04 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Cronos

Here is a good book about a WW2 veteran. I am guessing the Russian and Ukraine soldiers are going thru the same experiences.

George Wilson division had near complete replacements multiple times while he was the the only original man left.

If You Survive: From Normandy to the Battle of the Bulge to the End of World War II, One American Officer’s Riveting True Story Mass Market Paperback – May 12, 1987
https://www.amazon.com/If-You-Survive-Normandy-American/dp/0804100039

“If you survive your first day, I’ll promote you.”

So promised George Wilson’s World War II commanding officer in the hedgerows of Normandy — and it was to be a promise dramatically fulfilled. From July, 1944, to the closing days of the war, from the first penetration of the Siegfried Line to the Nazis’ last desperate charge in the Battle of the Bulge, Wilson fought in the thickest of the action, helping take the small towns of northern France and Belgium building by building.

Of all the men and officers who started out in Company F of the 4th Infantry Division with him, Wilson was the only one who finished.

Comment excerpt: The average life expectancy of a combat infantry officer in the U.S. Army during WW2 was ninety days. By that time lieutenants and captains could expect to be W.I.A. (wounded in action) K.I.A. (killed in action) or an N.B.C. (non-battle casualty).

He shipped into Normandy after D-Day during the horrific hedgerow fighting that followed, during which the U.S. Army alone, independent of the others, lost 20,838 killed, 94 881 wounded, 10,128 missing (a total of 125 847 casualties) in just three months. Wilson, of course, didn’t know how bloody the campaign would prove to be when he arrived, he was simply told by his commanding officer, “If you survive your first day, I’ll promote you.” Some welcome, huh?
https://www.amazon.com/If-You-Survive-Normandy-American/product-reviews/0804100039/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews


139 posted on 09/25/2022 11:18:37 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Ancesthntr

1. which are the 5 chokepoints for the west? And how did the USSR control all 5?
- I assume you mean the Suez and Panama canals, the Dardanelles, the straits of Gibraltar and of Malacca. But I don’t see the USSR controlling any of them and Russia 2 of them

2. “Russia is open to invasion” - not really - you’re talking about a cavalry war which isn’t feasible in this world of artillery and drones. And the Mongols came in the 12th century when “Russia” was a federation of states in what is now Western “Russia”, Ukraine and Belarus — the Cumans, Turkic states etc. ruled to the east.

3. no one has pushed russia into a corner — Russia refused to play nice with its neighbors. It could have controlled them with its economy and soft power, but it did not.


140 posted on 09/26/2022 6:25:34 AM PDT by Cronos
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