Posted on 08/30/2022 3:45:27 PM PDT by aimhigh
Over the past several weeks, NASA's ultra-powerful James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) has allowed humankind some unprecedented glimpses into the farthest reaches of our universe. And unsurprisingly, some of these dazzling new observations have raised more questions than they've answered.
For a long time, for instance, scientists believed the universe's earliest, oldest galaxies to be small, slightly chaotic, and misshapen systems. But according to the Washington Post, JWST-captured imagery has revealed those galaxies to be shockingly massive, not to mention balanced and well-formed — a finding that challenges, and will likely rewrite, long-held understandings about the origins of our universe.
"The models just don't predict this," Garth Illingworth, an astronomer at the University of California at Santa Cruz, told WaPo. "How do you do this in the universe at such an early time? How do you form so many stars so quickly?"
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God did that.
All models are built on assumptions.
It is actually stunningly stupid to assume the older galaxies would chaotic. Ours is highly organized....the assumption should be others would also be highly organized.....similar things would have similar characteristics.
Bad models mean more money, nothing else
That’s what science is supposed to do. We don’t know it all and never will, but we can keep exploring, asking, learning more along the way.
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I agree! but the trouble with many in the scientific community is the smugness of absolute certainty that they have all the answers, when in fact, they do not have a clue. So then they make up stuff of what might be and this bizarre speculation becomes a new theory that everyone clings to.
so the real question is who is paying the most for these answers.
I no longer trust any ‘scientist’ on any subject!
Predicting warmer temps and getting cooler temps really hurts the models.
Especially since there are 20 or more models and they all fail.
God.
A theory which may go down in flames is physical uniformity through space and time.
A lack of uniformity makes prediction and aging of the universe very, very difficult.
“Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”
But no stars till the third day.
“Can it be? Is The Science at least tacitly admitting to not having all of the answers? That is actually pretty surprising.”
You must not follow science! Lit major?
Evidence from JWST indicates NO Big Bang
Dumb question but an honest dumb question. What was outside of the universe so it could expand into?
Cannot wrap my head around that.
You accurately described the people who insist the climate "science is settled".
“The models just don’t predict this,”
Just like the fraudulent climate change models manufactured by libtards
That was part of my intent.
;’}
Stars do sparkle...
Believe me I know. I’ve built financial models for years. The math doesn’t change. Its the assumptions you build into the models. They can show anything depending on the assumptions you begin with. Its the same with climate models, with astronomical models or anything else. If your assumptions are crap, your results are going to be crap.
Maybe they were spoken into existence
We are the stuff that got away.
Wonderful, brilliant explanation (you agree with me!).
Truly, that is an excellent point which most people Do. Not. Understand.
You get anything you want out of models by fiddling with the assumptions.
There are so many unknowns in the climate models, you can get anything you want.
Without a clear baseline to compare against, or numerous runs to compare against reality, it is simply projecting your desires unto the model.
For my creds, I was a professional meteorologist for three decades, and I worked with models and the development of models for about 20 of those years.
I was *not* a modeler, but I had a lot of input as to what the models (short scale weather models) were doing right and wrong.
I don’t rely on Genesis to tell me how God created the universe, I rely on Job
Job 38
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.
4 “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone—
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels shouted for joy?
<snip
“What is the way to the abode of light?
And where does darkness reside?
20 Can you take them to their places?
Do you know the paths to their dwellings?
21 Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!
<snip
31 “Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades?
Can you loosen Orion’s belt?
32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs?
33 Do you know the laws of the heavens?
Can you set up God’s dominion over the earth?
Try talking to them. Nah, they think they know everything
when it comes to discussions with them.
They like being wrong? No, it seriously disturbs them.
The Web telescope was put there for one reason.
It was going to confirm how brilliant they were.
Now it’s panic city!
I’ve run monte carlo simulations for Banks. I’ve done Stress Tests for Banks. I’ve built acquisition models for M&A. The principles for that and various scientific models are the same.
There was a great documentary called “Trillion Dollar Bet” about Long Term Capital Management in the 90s. That was a company formed by some math whizzes who figured out the Black Sholes model for calculating the value of European Call Options. Its beautiful math. They won a nobel prize in economics for it. Long Term Capital Management was a big success because it could more accurately calculate the value of these options by tiny fractions of a decimal point than the market had been able to do before.
Then the Tech bubble burst and the market went down and Long Term Capital Management went bust and had to be taken over by the government lest it contaminate the entire market. What happened?
Simple. The math whizzes who ran the thing did not know what a bear market was. They thought it was a market in which prices are going down. Nope! A bear market is a market in which there is no liquidity. What does that mean in English?
Their formula said when the price goes down a certain amount you sell. The projection was somebody else buys and others take that elevator ride all the way down to hell. That’s not what happened. The price went down and LTCM put their options up for sale and nobody bought. So they reduced the sales price and nobody bought. So they reduced the sale price more and nobody bought. and on and on. Uh oh. They were stuck with crap assets and they took that elevator ride all the way down.
Effectively the assets they were dealing in were more risky than they had priced them as. The government took over, the assets recovered after a little while and the government got out without suffering a huge loss but this was a perfect example of the most beautiful math in the world (Black Sholes which is still used today) but bad assumptions leading to utter disaster.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h3685/kjv/wlc/0-1/
Is that how it was known to the ancient Hebrews?
(Orion, the Bear, etc.)
The astronomical mythology may be older than we think (?)
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