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Gee, I wonder if that's the reason they want a lot of folks to move into downtown apartments and screw the suburbs. Suburbs only for the elite. You KNOW they're workin' it. As far as jenny jenny......One would have to work extra hard to find this many incompetent folks.
1 posted on 07/12/2022 10:22:10 AM PDT by rktman
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What they really want is for us to be unable to get to Church!!!!

PHOOEY to them all!!!!


2 posted on 07/12/2022 10:25:23 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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My buddies and I used to drive around and listen to Red Barchetta by Rush.

A totalitarian future in which private ownership of cars is forbidden? Fantastic and unthinkable, or so we thought.


3 posted on 07/12/2022 10:31:23 AM PDT by DarrellZero
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You will go nowhere and be happy!.......................


5 posted on 07/12/2022 10:33:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Biden's Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm responded to American concerns about high gas prices by urging them to buy electric cars.

So what model electric car does Jennifer drive? Or is she just shuttled around in gas-powered limousines?

8 posted on 07/12/2022 10:38:36 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (3,498,101 active users on Truth Social)
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When you have a government that has grown well beyond any sane limits, this is what you will get, and worse.


9 posted on 07/12/2022 10:39:15 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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The goal is to "nudge 40% of U.S. drivers into electric vehicles by decade’s end."

The government of a free, constitutional republic has no business trying to "nudge" people. That's the act of a closet tyrant.

12 posted on 07/12/2022 10:41:48 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Eh they are after the burbs too—they plan to offer grants for multi-unit housing. And how are rural citizens to get around?

Everything is about control/power.


13 posted on 07/12/2022 10:42:52 AM PDT by Freedom56v2
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Bfl


14 posted on 07/12/2022 10:43:08 AM PDT by Maceman (People who vote Democrat sell their lives (and ours) to the government and their souls to the Devil.)
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Will 40% of Americans be able to afford electric cars that cost an average of $54,000 by 2030?

That's always been the goal, get us out of private vehicle ownership and into ride-sharing public transit. This bickering about gas vs. EV is a distraction away from us being treated like cattle. Goal is clustering people into high-rise towers while forcing people to use public transit, and to reclaim land currently used for cars.

As for the question of affordability - Americans will be able to afford EV's in the form of electric bikes, skateboards and similar "EV's".

15 posted on 07/12/2022 10:45:02 AM PDT by roadcat
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I agree with this article almost completely, even though my wife and I like our EV. Them forcing us into EV's doesn't make sense in a lot of situations and producing EV's isn't exactly a clean process. And forcing folks to drive EV's make it tough for people living in apartments who can't charge at home.

Although, one thing I'd change in the article is pricing. You can get a 300-mile range (realistically call it about 250-mile range if you use the A/C and drive with a lead foot like I do) Kia EV6 for about $42K. Yes, the average price of EV's is a lot higher, but those include Teslas and very high end cars like Porsche EV's. Add about $4K for charger installation (I suggest installing a 240V/50A outlet in your garage and get a plug-in charger so that you can replace the charger if needed without hiring another electrician, much like you don't need an electrician to replace your 240V electric dryer). So now we're talking $46K. Not too bad IMHO for a car that charges in 20 minutes on the road (with a 350kW charger). And that price is artificially inflated by the $7,500 tax credit (it'd be $38K to $39K without the tax credit).

Don't get me wrong. There are plenty of problems with pushing people to EV's. Most notably a thing called freedom -- the gubment ain't got no business telling us what we can and can't drive. Then there's the grid not being able to support it. And what to do when it's time to dispose all the lithium batteries. But the initial purchase price of an EV is coming down to affordable levels (if you're in the market for a new car anyway). It remains to be seen how cheap a bunch of used EV's will be. It'd be nice if they get cheap like buying a used ICE car.

I recommend we make our argument against government intrusion in our choices by using real and correct information. That means the purchase price of an EV is no longer a valid argument.

16 posted on 07/12/2022 10:47:35 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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What they really want is to put GPS, breathalyzers and body heat sensors in every vehicle. That will raise the price more than 20%!


18 posted on 07/12/2022 10:52:38 AM PDT by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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Eco-life in 2040 (Planned-opolis) - 4 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGQu1y4BZSs


19 posted on 07/12/2022 10:59:13 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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EV’s are not “clean” vehicles other than a lack of exhaust and noise. The making of EV’s is dirtier than ICE vehicles. The energy to charge EV’s is not clean either.

The only place EV’s make sense is highly populated cities where the traffic is so dense it causes air pollution you can see in the summer. It goes away in the winter. The cold does something to make it invisible.

In rural and suburban areas they make no sense at all.


21 posted on 07/12/2022 11:05:45 AM PDT by Boomer ( George Orwell: “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”)
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In January 2020, I shopped around for a new Camry Hybrid. Within a 500-mile radius on cars.com, I found hundreds of models available for a test drive. Fast-forward to today, and there is ONE dealership within 500 miles that has the vehicle on its lot. One. And they want $5000 above sticker. Cars.com lists 128 models “available,” but 127 of those are stock photos where the car is on back-order with no guarantee of how long it will take to get the car.

We’re already at the point where getting a new car is very difficult and might as well be considered a luxury.


23 posted on 07/12/2022 11:07:50 AM PDT by Restless
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Gee, I wonder if that's the reason they want a lot of folks to move into downtown apartments and screw the suburbs.
Most workplaces aren't located "downtown". It's not likely your 2nd or 3rd floor apartment will have electrical access to plug in your EV so you'll be taking long bus rides, then walk the rest of the way from the one size fits all bus stop to your job.
24 posted on 07/12/2022 11:10:07 AM PDT by lewislynn (The Murdochs might be citizens but they aren't true blue Americans.)
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Related, from Legal Insurrection...

The ‘Green Agenda’ Will Be Revolutionary, Against The Green Agenda “the pursuit of Net Zero by continually raising the cost of living is going to cause populist revolts that will make Brexit and Trump look like minor blips”

25 posted on 07/12/2022 11:11:59 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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Yeah right, but not in America.


26 posted on 07/12/2022 11:13:15 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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Just the UN’s Agenda 21 in action. We’ve been warned for years.


36 posted on 07/12/2022 11:56:08 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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I consider the internal combustion engine to be one of mankind’s greatest inventions. Looks like myself and the ICE will fade out at about the same time.


39 posted on 07/12/2022 12:50:56 PM PDT by Roadrunner383 (;)
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Democrat scum have always dreamed of criminalizing cars.


42 posted on 07/12/2022 12:59:59 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie. )
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